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Tymathee Offline
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« on: September 02, 2009, 07:43:10 am »

I was in the Armor Company thread and just started coming up with ideas and it kept on going so I thought I'd make my own thread about it since I had so many.

Tell me what you think.

Tank Destroyer No More
- Makes M10's and M18's more accurate vs infantry but also gives less penetration vs vehicles.

Sandbags - With .50 cal upgrade, Sherman gains 15% less incoming penetration and 15% more health

Diversified Munitions - Engineers can place Hawkins and M8 mines.

"I've always wanted one of these" Able to upgrade jeep with .50 cal gun from m8/sherman.

Forward Scout - Jeeps cloak in cover and have sight and detection radius reduced by 50% when cloaked. (makes it different than ketten since ketten can cloak whenever and you can't hear jeeps, plus if you dont hide it well, it'll fire without you wanting it to)

Ridin Durty - Infantry can ride on tanks.

Advanced AP Rounds - Upgrade for Quad that allows it to take down light armor, cost 100 mu and only has 2 uses (i know its already pretty good at this but I've seen a mod do this and it was so awesome albeit powerful, price would need to be pretty high to balance it)

Focus Fire - When this ability is active all vehicles fire 25% slower with 25% more accuracy and 25% more damage.

Pershing Command/Ace - Pershing Gains command aura that gives bonuses I say small about 5-10% about a 10-15 cell range (i think this could be a cool t4 for all heavy tanks and would prevent so much soloing)

On Board Detectors - Tanks gain a small mine detecting ability. (can make it real short like 5-10 or maybe 10+ if standing still)

Rocket Slug - Callie fires a more focused rocket barrage with 50% less rockets.

Sawed off - Callie fires wider rocket barrage with 50% more rockets Cheesy

Sherman Jumbo - (kinda same as sandbags) Upgrade for the Sherman You can buy a sherman jumbo package that include a bulldozer that gives 25% incoming penetration resistence and 25% more health but reduces speed by 10%

Sherman Easy Eight - Upgrade for Sherman that gives 10% speed boost, automatic upgun that gives 15% more damage and same penetration bonuses

105 Sherman - Sherman with 105 Cheesy easy enough.

^ maybe this can all be tied together in a t4 called "Multi-purpose Shermans" or something like that

thats all I've got for now.
« Last Edit: September 02, 2009, 08:07:21 am by Tymathee » Logged

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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2009, 07:59:45 am »

I was in the Armor Company thread and just started coming up with ideas and it kept on going so I thought I'd make my own thread about it since I had so many.

Tell me what you think.

Tank Destroyer No More
- gets new gun that has its same damage, less penetration and more splash damage making it a more viable ai platform but basically on par with shermans in terms of taking out infantry (but not as good) (i personally think it wouldn't be a bad idea to have both the m10 and m18 be able to switch guns for a price as an ability)

you want a tank destroyer with that awesome splash of a sherman? sounds op and paradox

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Sandbags - With .50 cal upgrade, Sherman gains 15% less incoming penetration and 15% more health

.50 cal upgrade is extremely powerful as it is because it makes the crappy shreks wortheless against non upgunned shermans no need for a buff


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Diversified Munitions - Engineers can place Hawkins and M8 mines.

m8 mines for engies? should be at 75 mun as tellermines than

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"I've always wanted one of these" Able to upgrade jeep with .50 cal gun from m8/sherman.

i feel jeepspam incomming because the .50cal is that what makes an m8 a infantry raping machine

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Forward Scout - Jeeps cloak in cover and have sight and detection radius reduced by 50% when cloaked. (makes it different than ketten since ketten can cloak whenever and you can't hear jeeps, plus if you dont hide it well, it'll fire without you wanting it to)

sniper ambush? that sounds ok but remove the mg on jeep than

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Ridin Durty - Infantry can ride on tanks.

to be completely unable to supress by hmgs or 360° bar suppression useable from tanks?

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Advanced AP Rounds - Upgrade for Quad that allows it to take down light armor, cost 100 mu and only has 2 uses (i know its already pretty good at this but I've seen a mod do this and it was so awesome albeit powerful, price would need to be pretty high to balance it)

quads rape light vehicles except the ones with inf ht armor
should it rape its counter (e.g. upgunned puma, hotchkiss...) now
 too and rape and suppress infantry? sounds a "bit" op

..ok i have a game will be edit for following comments
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2009, 08:03:25 am »

I was in the Armor Company thread and just started coming up with ideas and it kept on going so I thought I'd make my own thread about it since I had so many.

Tell me what you think.

Tank Destroyer No More
- gets new gun that has its same damage, less penetration and more splash damage making it a more viable ai platform but basically on par with shermans in terms of taking out infantry (but not as good) (i personally think it wouldn't be a bad idea to have both the m10 and m18 be able to switch guns for a price as an ability)

you want a tank destroyer with that awesome splash of a sherman? sounds op and paradox

I think he wants to switch the guns. (ie. an M10 with an AI gun.)
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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2009, 08:06:36 am »

I was in the Armor Company thread and just started coming up with ideas and it kept on going so I thought I'd make my own thread about it since I had so many.

Tell me what you think.

Tank Destroyer No More
- gets new gun that has its same damage, less penetration and more splash damage making it a more viable ai platform but basically on par with shermans in terms of taking out infantry (but not as good) (i personally think it wouldn't be a bad idea to have both the m10 and m18 be able to switch guns for a price as an ability)

you want a tank destroyer with that awesome splash of a sherman? sounds op and paradox

I think he wants to switch the guns. (ie. an M10 with an AI gun.)

Right, Its purchasable and it wouldn't have the splash of a sherman. It'd just be more accurate vs infantry and it will suffer a penalty that it's not as good as it used to be vs tanks.
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2009, 08:08:47 am »

Riding on the back of a tank sounds ok, as long as the units get the negative cover and/or 50% more incoming accuracy.
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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2009, 08:17:51 am »

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.50 cal upgrade is extremely powerful as it is because it makes the crappy shreks wortheless against non upgunned shermans no need for a buff

It wont make them worthless but it will at least make you want to buy Shermans and actually use them.
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m8 mines for engies? should be at 75 mun as tellermines than

I kind of agree. I was thinking 20 still for the hawkins and about 50-75 for the m8 mine. I was just trying to think of a nice upgrade for engineers since they get no <3.

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i feel jeepspam incomming because the .50cal is that what makes an m8 a infantry raping machine

Oh, you mean like bike spam? You can always tone down the damage output.

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sniper ambush? that sounds ok but remove the mg on jeep than

sniper ambush? whats the problem with that. Also, if you remove the hmg, then you lose its counter against itself which is basically, dont place it in the way of incoming units, you have to hide the unit or it'll reveal itself by firing.
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to be completely unable to supress by hmgs or 360° bar suppression useable from tanks?

they wont be able to fire duh. Just ride on the tanks and use it as a transport.

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quads rape light vehicles except the ones with inf ht armor
should it rape its counter (e.g. upgunned puma, hotchkiss...) now
 too and rape and suppress infantry? sounds a "bit" op

I agree it is, thats why you'd make it pretty expensive. You can always turn off the suppression thats on it when its in use. One of my least viable ideas tbh that i think would work in our environment but is a cool idea none the less
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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2009, 08:18:58 am »

Riding on the back of a tank sounds ok, as long as the units get the negative cover and/or 50% more incoming accuracy.

they should be vulnerable to all fire incoming onto the tank as they can't dodge incoming shots while sitting on a tank. Basically, you load 'em onto the tank, drive up before the front line, let 'em off. You dont take them into battle with you with them riding on the tank. If tank blows with infantry on it, so do the infantry.
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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2009, 08:20:33 am »

LOL, rrs on tank, or rangers, or even flame pios = rape.

I disagree with most of you proporsals in current state, but increasing m10 accuracy
versus infantry let's say in cost of the speed (so it can't crush so easy) would sound more rational.

But I would love to see Jumbo, 105mm and easy 8.
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2009, 08:31:26 am »

I'd love to see airborne mounting a flankspeed sherman with mineflails, pew pew
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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2009, 08:32:14 am »


Ridin Durty - Infantry can ride on tanks.

Also cools as this sounds, it isn't possible. You can make infantry "ride on a tank" (they sort of crouch like in Halftracks) put due to the way the coding goes, they end up lagging behind the tank, floating in mid air.
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« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2009, 08:33:47 am »


Ridin Durty - Infantry can ride on tanks.

Also cools as this sounds, it isn't possible. You can make infantry "ride on a tank" (they sort of crouch like in Halftracks) put due to the way the coding goes, they end up lagging behind the tank, floating in mid air.


Thats so sad to hear, cant we at least give them a hang glider animation to make it look more realistic?
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« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2009, 08:38:53 am »

i disagree with (almost) all suggestions.
ohman i cant find words for that rofl
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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2009, 08:44:38 am »


Ridin Durty - Infantry can ride on tanks.

Also cools as this sounds, it isn't possible. You can make infantry "ride on a tank" (they sort of crouch like in Halftracks) put due to the way the coding goes, they end up lagging behind the tank, floating in mid air.


Ain't there something you can copy from singleplayer? I think in some of the cutscenes you see infantry riding tanks.
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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2009, 09:03:14 am »

Thats an animation; with the infantry already animated on the tanks. If there was a way to trigger that animation, it would be golden; but their isn't. Plus it would look weird infantry going inside of a tank then men magically appearing ontop of it.
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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2009, 09:04:41 am »

LOL, rrs on tank, or rangers, or even flame pios = rape.

I disagree with most of you proporsals in current state, but increasing m10 accuracy
versus infantry let's say in cost of the speed (so it can't crush so easy) would sound more rational.

But I would love to see Jumbo, 105mm and easy 8.

i could've sworn I did say that they couldn't fire, stop being such idiots you and smokaz trying to stir up crap.

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they should be vulnerable to all fire incoming onto the tank as they can't dodge incoming shots while sitting on a tank. Basically, you load 'em onto the tank, drive up before the front line, let 'em off. You dont take them into battle with you with them riding on the tank. If tank blows with infantry on it, so do the infantry.

then there's this penalty. they'd be like sitting sucks and they wouldn't be able to fire but since it can't be done, w/e. At least i'm trying to come up with ideas instead of always trying to shoot down other peoples, what have you guys contributed lately other than negativity?
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« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2009, 09:04:58 am »

With the removal of shrekspam, crocspam should now be more viable.

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i could've sworn I did say that they couldn't fire, stop being such idiots you and smokaz trying to stir up crap.

No Tym, Im with you all the way. I think infantry mounting tanks is a great idea. They could hang on to a m10 driving past a building, and throw a grenade at the mg inside as they pass by.

I also think hawkins mines for engineers would be cool.
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« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2009, 09:11:33 am »


Ridin Durty - Infantry can ride on tanks.

Also cools as this sounds, it isn't possible. You can make infantry "ride on a tank" (they sort of crouch like in Halftracks) put due to the way the coding goes, they end up lagging behind the tank, floating in mid air.


Ain't there something you can copy from singleplayer? I think in some of the cutscenes you see infantry riding tanks.
Yes, British Campaign - Authie: Boudica's Boys (1st Mission). Personally, I'd LOVE to see that Smiley (No shooting from the tank ofc and they can still take dmg unlike in Halftrack).. It's sad that it can't be done.. I guess those men are floating like when you got Main Gun Damaged? I noticed that the Damaged main gun is kinda floating when the tank drives too.


New Sherman variants would be 100% awesomeness.
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« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2009, 04:32:03 pm »

i think the sherman veriants would be a great t4. It'd just be like purchasing an upgrade, except that it changes some stats on the original unit.

the thing is, you can still only have so many, you get a t4, you get 3 new units, while not overally powerful either one of them, they give you new goodies that give armor a new flavor.
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« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2009, 02:36:13 am »

Once some models are made it's not unlikely that you'll be seeing some sherman variants in EIRR Smiley.
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« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2009, 02:38:55 am »

New Infantry are far easier to create.
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