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[Demon767]

Thats what I mean, who do these two officers (Terror and American) need abilities; the British ones don't (Lt gets Heroic Charge at Vet 1). What if the officers were much more ingrained into the infantry and didn't rely on fantasy abilities to make them different.

Say, if the terror officer had a receive accuracy aura that buffed his surrounding units to simulate the enemy missing more do to being terrified by the officers presence within his troops.

Or the American Officer having a reload/rate of fire buff, to simulate him ordering his troops to fire more rounds.

perfect get rid of fantasy abilities

[CrazyWR]

First sherman shot leave him with a slither of health, he is easy to kill.  You just ran off a blob of your inf as soon as he got near.  Run this guy over and its a clostly unit that what usually happens to mine.

fyi, that was a pershing shot, not a sherman shot.

[Smokaz]

I love this attitude around here, the croc is largely agreed upon as being underpowered yet some people are already making snide remarks towards a change not even implemented yet. Which isn't even a radical idea, its just a buff of the 10% hp buff the bulldozer always has provided for the croc since vcoh times..

[Computer991]

Post likes these make me hate the community.

Guys its a little thing called...Focus fire...i swear it kills him 100% of the time.

[Smokaz]

Focus fire from what exactly? Heroic armor type baby, you cant hit me. Add green cover and vet, oh la la. I bet fitness affects him as well.. then pop a terror t2 medikit on him, good luck bringing him down.

Don't drink haterade and burp on the community just because you play terror and it's being perceived as OP.. I play terror too, yet I can accept why a lot of people think it's the best wehr doctrine and I can agree with some stuff being OP just because its silly to play against and easy to play with.

[Computer991]

Focus fire from what exactly? Heroic armor type baby, you cant hit me. Add green cover and vet, oh la la. I bet fitness affects him as well.. then pop a terror t2 medikit on him, good luck bringing him down.

With the right blob you'll finish him off no problem

I want to make a replay of all the gay ways i've lost my officers

If his health/armor was to be reduced i doubt he'd be worth the use,seeing as if he doesn't live long enough to slow down the soldiers then hes useless

[gamesguy2]

I gotta agree with this, I've chased terror officers across the map with T17s and shermans, and it takes forever to kill them with vet. shots just keep missing over and over again. And ones that do, he regens health by the time the next one hits! I just run them over now, no point in trying to actually kill them. I had an M8 sit on one for 30 seconds with the .50 and main gun shooting, the officer was only vet 2, and i couldn't kill him before paks/shrecks arrived.

your just very unlucky all my officers die to Sherman's insta gib shots.

I can supply all the replays if you care,but the point is he shouldn't die very easily its 150 munies and 220 manpower

Terror officer has 140 hp and heroic armor.

Ameri officer has 110 hp and elite armor.

Brit LT has 65 hp and heroic armor.

Brit captain has 60 hp and heroic armor(note he gets a bunch of defensive buffs if hes in friendly territory).

Sherman does 87.5 damage per shot, its physically impossible to kill a full hp terror officer with one shot.

If his health/armor was to be reduced i doubt he'd be worth the use,seeing as if he doesn't live long enough to slow down the soldiers then hes useless

Then you must believe the American officer/LT/Captain are even more useless since they have vastly less hp compared to the terror officer.

Smokaz is right, terror doesnt have any sucky abilities, just varying degrees of pwn.

[Rocksitter]

terror 0 vet 3
        3 vet 2
        3 vet 1

us     3 vet 3
        3 vet 2
        4 vet 1

brit Cap

       7 vet 2
      10 vet 1

brit lieutenant

       1 vet 3
       7 vet 2
      10 vet 1


 vet tables tell a different story....
 but we know not a complete story but it does say something about the situation....

[Computer991]

Then you must believe the American officer/LT/Captain are even more useless since they have vastly less hp compared to the terror officer.

Smokaz is right, terror doesnt have any sucky abilities, just varying degrees of pwn.

your not getting it,those guys only need to buff their own units, so they can stay back and what not the terror officer needs to slow down units so to be used effectively he needs to be RIGHT next to them..

Also from what i can tell the american officer has better range than the TO

Not to mention the TO is  a doctrine unlock,of course he should be better than a LT or a captain

Captain - 150 man power 40 munitions
Lt - 155 Man power 40 Munitions
TO - 220 man power 150 munitions
American officer - 220 60 Munitions

[Killer344]

So........ Terror never had any officer in the first place, that maybe the problem? Terror officers are a godsend to LMG squads.

And the price only says he's the best of all of them haha, he has the best armor, more HP than any other officer, coupled with a deadly weapon at close range, and the perfect counter to fire up, slow.

You should try using it from inside an HT.

[Computer991]

So........ Terror never had any officer in the first place, that maybe the problem? Terror officers are a godsend to LMG squads.

And the price only says he's the best of all of them haha, he has the best armor, more HP than any other officer, coupled with a deadly weapon at close range, and the perfect counter to fire up, slow.

You should try using it from inside an HT.

He's useless in HT's since usually there is AT around.
by the war neither did the americans.

So your saying you'd take the Terror officer over 1 Captain 1 Lt and 1 American officer?

[Killer344]

Yeah, and infantry is useless because there's always AI around, tanks are useless because there must be AT around as well, I mean, who would dare to use a bike or jeep to scout?

Seriously computer991, try to see him from a non axis point of view to post something that makes sense.

your just very unlucky all my officers die to Sherman's insta gib shots.

Like that, it's literally impossible to kill a unit with heroic armor with 1 shot, especially when it has enough HP to survive 1 with more than 5%HP.

[sgMisten]

Terror officer off-map comes included with the officer or you have to purchase it?

[Killer344]

It comes with it.

[Computer991]

Yeah, and infantry is useless because there's always AI around, tanks are useless because there must be AT around as well, I mean, who would dare to use a bike or jeep to scout?

Seriously computer991, try to see him from a non axis point of view to post something that makes sense.

your just very unlucky all my officers die to Sherman's insta gib shots.

Like that, it's literally impossible to kill a unit with heroic armor with 1 shot, especially when it has enough HP to survive 1 with more than 5%HP.

Well i wont lie i probly and being a bit baised but thats just natural i'm an axis player..
I have played as brits and I've run into several of them, Why don't you start using one? i've never seen you play terror this war...

3 recon tommies = DEAD officer :p

And yes it has happened believe it or not i thought the same thing(wasn't at full health like 4/5 of health)

Also he gets run over by a sherman or anything thats as fast as a sherman.

[Mysthalin]

3 recon tommies is NOT a dead officer.
I would know.

[Computer991]

3 recon tommies is NOT a dead officer.
I would know.

I would know too...Want to test it ?

[sgMisten]

I've seen 4 terror officer start with panther support before. 4 off-maps = dead atguns, officer = dead infantry, panther = dead vehicles.

Edit:
Terror officer offmap comes free with unit at 150 mun. Brit LT and Captain have to pay 150/140 mun respectively to buy offmap. While their offmap is more devastating, the TO's anti-infantry offmap is still strong enough to cripple MGs and ATGs - which are really the more important targets anyway.

That's quite a lot of firepower and special ability for 150 mun.

[Computer991]

I've seen 4 terror officer start with panther support before. 4 off-maps = dead atguns, officer = dead infantry, panther = dead vehicles.

lmao that's hardcore.

But your talking about 800 munitions ;o

[sgMisten]

600 munitions for 4 TOs.
660 munitions if you want to count medkits.

edit: Well yea 800 if you count Panther's upgrades.