TodlichPanther
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« on: September 23, 2009, 07:23:38 pm » |
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I personally belive this T4 should affect hotchkiss's when upgraded with the gun upgrade.
The hotchkiss is one of the least used units in the game currently, this would indicate that it is regarded as weak by most players.
The same thing can be said for the Telescopic sights T4 in the tank hunter doctrine, compared to the super hetzer/jadgpanther buff it is not very good.
To get a little bit more utility out of both units i propose extending the umbrella of units that are included under the telescopic sights ability to include the upgraded hotchkiss.
thoughts?
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Also, I lost a game due to not enough anti-infantry units, so airborne get double damage at each vet level.
More changes to come.
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Smokaz
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2009, 07:29:42 pm » |
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Sounds acceptable in theory. But if upgunned hotchkisses start kiting shermans, m10s and pershings etc its quickly going to feel wrong.
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| spinn72
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2009, 07:31:07 pm » |
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Currently i'd say its the best T4 ability out there, it already includes so many more units anyway eg. Panther, Hetzer, Jagd, ATHT, Light ATHT (great with focus fire), Marder.
I don't think it needs the hotchkiss's range improved really, it would make the ability even better and thus give no reason to get any other T4.
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| CrazyWR
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2009, 07:37:17 pm » |
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ya, really that t4 is already amazing enough...
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| TodlichPanther
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2009, 08:01:58 pm » |
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hmm fair enough i guess. Kiting requires micro, something that needs to be encouraged more imo, esp with light arm. Currently way to many people rely on bullet time dodging rather than ducking behind buildings and things, which is just wrong imo. Interesting perspective on the T4, sounds amazing on paper, but i never see anyone use it  |
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Killer344
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2009, 08:29:03 pm » |
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Yeah, well, you'll easily notice it in action when 50mm LAHTs/Marders out-range your at guns.
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| TodlichPanther
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2009, 08:37:20 pm » |
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haha sounds fair enough. still think hotchkiss's should benefit from it  they are so underused i see no harm coming from it, it may encorage people to use them. More unit diversity is a good thing. |
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| CrazyWR
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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2009, 08:50:48 pm » |
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Whats the accuracy for hotchkiss' vs allied light vehicles/tanks? It seems really high, but not sure. I know it penetrates pershings every time, which is a bit silly, but...
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| TodlichPanther
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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2009, 08:55:22 pm » |
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not sure on the numbers, ive been using a lot of hotch's latly, they seem to hit each other about 1/2 the time. But most allied light tanks don't do much damage to a hotch.
does anyone know if scopes works on a hetzer either?
while i may have been naive in thinking scopes a weak t4, i fail to see why it SHOULDN'T affect hotchkiss's with the upgun..they are only for anti tank then, they are worse against infantry than firefly's at that point.
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| Pak88mm
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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2009, 10:10:46 pm » |
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Sounds acceptable in theory. But if upgunned hotchkisses start kiting shermans, m10s and pershings etc its quickly going to feel wrong.
like t17s kitting infantry and all......oh yeah.....support combined arms go out the door eh |
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| CrazyWR
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2009, 10:34:15 pm » |
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ffs, keep a tank around your infantry...
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| TodlichPanther
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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2009, 12:11:36 am » |
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i could use a similar argument if someone was to kite with hotchkiss. Keep an at gun nearby ffs!
no one has been able to explain why this particular AT weapon( an only this one) should not receive the benefits of this t4...
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| Ununoctium
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« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2009, 05:22:44 am » |
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Hotchkiss vs pershing is worse than tetrach vs tiger
more range and those tings will be able t really fuck with inf and tanks
Its a LV not a tank by its combat abilities.
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 My tigers get penetrated by everything. Its really really frustrating.
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| Mgallun74
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« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2009, 07:45:04 am » |
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hotchkiss upgun? what the germans do? put a 88 on it?
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| TodlichPanther
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« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2009, 08:18:52 am » |
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hotchkiss have to be one of the most inefficient ways to kill infantry...57's do a better job..
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wildsolus
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« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2009, 08:49:47 am » |
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i'd take a hotchkiss to kill infantry over the tetrarch
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sgMisten
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« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2009, 09:13:20 am » |
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Off topic, but does the Hotchkiss command tank come with the upgun built into it?
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| Todlichpanther3
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« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2009, 09:00:18 pm » |
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no the command hotchkiss has a regular hotchkiss gun and cannot be upgunned.
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