Coh 2.601 Hotfix !!

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[BigDick]

Though yeah if it ever became true that you needed TOV to play this mod, it would really hurt the US faction more than anyone else (alternative tank destroyer, a better armored car/tank). 

true because they got the most broken ToV units
the hotchkiss sucks anyways and the geschützwagen got the marder gun instead of its 250dmg or something vCOH gun

[Tymathee]

The way I read it, is that it's only allowing you to see if someone has it, i'm sure you could turn it off if you want so that it doesn't matter. Relic was the one that allowed it to be open like that and use the units, so w/e, if it was that important, they'd have fixed it in the first ToV patch.

[Smokaz]

The geschutzwagon is immensily useful, its up there with the t17 and the m18 imo.

[CrazyWR]

agreed

[Tymathee]

The geschutzwagon is immensily useful, its up there with the t17 and the m18 imo.

better imo, that range is just epic and the FREE 50 cal is useful enough vs infantry to be annoying.

[CafeMilani]

this is the most rediculous hotfix ive ever seen. even worse than some eir updates xD

[Draken]

Btw akra I dont give a shit what you say and how you defend "the only right company" (anyway what we can expect from RelicNews mod, it's like arguing with priest about God existance) it's just to suck more money for us . I have OF and vCoH I bought it right after it was released, but I want full product I understand that they need money but gimme a break they release new faction for free in MoW with realease of new patch. I don't play vcoh why I should buy quasi game which is ToV.

[Malevolence]

So next time you mouth off, especially with a moderator badge make sure you're packing the correct facts.

So, what, Moderators aren't allowed to have an opinion on things that aren't directly to do with the thing they're moderating?

Madness!

[Killer344]

The geschutzwagon is immensily useful, its up there with the t17 and the m18 imo.

You know why, it isn't for the stats/unit itself, don't distort the truth  .

[salan]

your all going to be on a time out if this keeps up..

[salan]

actually the funny thing about the MODIFICATION update for this patch doesn't originate with relic.

I believe the eastern front mod are actually responsible for the fix.  Relic broke the functionality hugely, and they actually fixed it, and sent HOW they fixed it to Relic, in doing so allowing relic to fix something they should have fixed previously.

[Dragon93]

 

They don't mod the game, so they wouldn't have noticed the problem.
If they were to add a new side, it would have been supported Server side, and therefore would have worked without this latest fix.

This patch is mainly about letting Modders add news races, without having to edit/hack the vanilla .exe.



So quit fighting ladies.
Out of everyone who's posted (as far as i know) the only other person this fix actually concerns, is Salan.

[anthony210]

And how do you know none of us play around with modding?

[Mysthalin]

Out of everyone who's posted (as far as i know) the only other person this fix actually concerns

What about all the people who don't have TOV and don't feel like paying 40 bucks to get what, ultimately, is an unfair advantage?
If this hotfix disallows TOV units to those EiRR players who don't own TOV, I'm personally leading a boycott in which I will not use ANY TOV units, even though I own TOV.

[Demon767]

if allies need TOV units to win that obviously points to them being broken because they feel they cant compete anymore.

[Mysthalin]

Demon, there's axis ToV units as well as allied...

[BigDick]

The geschutzwagon is immensily useful, its up there with the t17 and the m18 imo.

better imo, that range is just epic and the FREE 50 cal is useful enough vs infantry to be annoying.

its range is not different to a marder
basically a geschützwagen is an expensive marder (200fuel vs 120 fuel) without lockdown and a modified onboard mg

and the onboard mg is an modified mg42 not a 50 .cal

e.g.

accuracy short: mg = 0.45 50.cal=0.75
burst duration:  50.cal 50% more
cooldown: 50.cal 20-33% lower
damage: mg=5 50.cal=7
supression: 50.cal double
dmg multi vs. infantry: mg=0.75 50.cal=1.5 (200%)
moving accuracy vs inf: mg=0.75 50.cal=1
firering area of 50. call is way bigger to since the geschütz can only fire to the front

to say the geschütz has a free 50.cal is just bullshit

the mg of the geschütz is crap especially since the EIR nerfs (because the burst bug some vCOH patches ago that got fixed meanwhile and nothing of the geschütz mg changed) and a 50.cal is way superior

as killer hints some people have very special company builds where they need to save as many munitions as possible to max out their use of doc abilities
for them the geschützwagen may worth it
but for an other company build the unit is not worth its price and far away from being OP like some other TOV units

[Demon767]

Demon, there's axis ToV units as well as allied...

Your point? any Axis can make do without the geshutz and hotchkiss, Which was my point in the dam first place!

[Mysthalin]

heh, it's true, the brits don't really have a remotely equal alternative to the stag ;P.

[Tymathee]

Demon, there's axis ToV units as well as allied...

Your point? any Axis can make do without the geshutz and hotchkiss, Which was my point in the dam first place!

which is sad, the hotchkiss is crap, and the gswagen is real good, but for the allies, the m18, t17, and stag are game changers, as is the kangaroo