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[lionel23]

Already pointed that out to Computer, but he insists they are a viable option.. you know, like wasting knights cross to recrew mortars too.

[Computer991]

Sappers suck at remanning because you can only do it once with them.  Costs 255 manpower for one Tommy squad (2 recrews) and 360 manpower for two Sapper squads to do the same.

BUT YOU'D HAVE 2 BACK CAPPER UNITS LEFT OVER :O the possibilities.


I was just saying he had an alternative,he wouldn't be stuck with using "expensive" tommies as recrew units.


And lionel that'd be the most epic mortar crew ever,EVER.

[Mysthalin]

BUT YOU'D HAVE 2 BACK CAPPER UNITS LEFT OVER :O the possibilities.

And most battles are won with back-capping alone!

Give us at least a little credit - there's a snowballs chance in hell anyone will actually take your idea of an army comprised entirely of back-cappers seriously.


No, it's NOT a viable alternative. Noone in their right mind will pay 4 infantry pool and 360 manpower to recrew twice, when they can do the same for 1 infantry pool and 255 manpower. It just makes no sense whatsoever to recrew with sappers, it's NOT a viable alternative.

[lionel23]

Thanks Mys, I've tried way too many times to point that out to Computer but he refuses to believe that there is an infinite about of 'good' choices to recrew when it really is only the Tommy Rifle Section that is the lynchpin of British remanning

[Computer991]

Thanks Mys, I've tried way too many times to point that out to Computer but he refuses to believe that there is an infinite about of 'good' choices to recrew when it really is only the Tommy Rifle Section that is the lynchpin of British remanning

lol you guys fail to realize a troll. maybe i wasn't trying hard enough.

I'm not going to restate what i said before anywho.

[Mysthalin]

Trolls aren't something we NEED on these forums, and if you want to do that, go somewhere else.

[computer992]

Trolls aren't something we NEED on these forums, and if you want to do that, go somewhere else.

These forums also don't need smart asses who think they know it all -_-.

[Calstifer]

THINK is a strong word when relating to mys...

[Mysthalin]

These forums also don't need smart asses who think they know it all -_-.

Never ever have I implied that I think I know it all. I have been proved wrong and accepted it on quite a few occasions - don't deem all others as petty as you.

THINK is a strong word when relating to mys...

And an ad-hominem upon someone you barely know, or rather, who doesn't even recognise you, shows unrivalled intelligence and thinking capabilities.

[Smokaz]

Your support weapons are cheaper as british, and the health of the crewing infantry affects the recrewed weapon crews survivability. Your stuff is also affected by captains and lieutnants, believe it or not. There's no imbalance in tommies being 255 manpower to use as recrew. Also, brits have powerful emplacements that regain health from being recrewed.

[Mysthalin]

I don't think that's really true, Smokaz.

6 pdr = 57 mm
@
380 MP 110 MU
Pak
380 MP 120 MU

The pak being quite a bit better, at least in sheer DPS and ability to cloak anywhere.

Vickers : 280 MP 30 MU
.30 cal : 250 MP 20 MU
Vickers costs more.

MG42 : 270 MP 40 MU
Costs slightly more than vickers in terms of mu, slightly less in MP. I'll give an overall slightly more, but it does have better damage and range.

2 inch : 380 MP 30 MU
M2 60 mm : 350 MP 50 MU
US mortar costs slightly more, but is undeniably a lot better.

WM 81 mm : 480 MP 65 MU
Costs a lot more, but is undeniably superior to both the US and the 2 inch mortars.

So it's overall pretty equal in the Support weapon cost efficiency sector.

65 health with soldier armour isn't that much better than 55 health with inf armour, actually being worse against flamethrowers and various explosives. If we consider the WM player uses volks to recrew, he's also getting 65 health per man on his crew members, at a quite cheaper price (51 per man compared to 37 per man). I'll agree that support weapons are slightly more survivable against non-flamethrowers if crewed by soldier armour infantry, but not enough to warrant a 38 percent higher price.

[Smokaz]

Depends on whether or not you compare them to americans or wehr. There's no doubt that tommy-recrewed support weapons are tougher than volks-recrewed weapons. This entire thread is filled with this exact complaint, that their infantry is too tough. I wonder why noone just wrote "use explosives and flamers" if the difference between 55 health of volks and 65 health of tommies isnt noticeable.

Also there's the fact that LT's and captain affect their support weapons.

[lionel23]

Well Smokaz, two things on that...

Wehr mortar, which still outranges a 2in mortar... that is explosive isn't it? So it doesn't get 'tougher' in that regard.

And really is most of this thread filled with Brit infantry is too OP?  Poll says as of this posting that 30 of out 42 people think Brit infantry is not a problem (20 saying its fine, 10 saying PE need buff but Brits are fine).

[Killer344]

Lol @ Polls, most people have like 10 accounts or so.

[lionel23]

So why have polls then if we're just going to disregard them? Really are we saying the allies are going to go so far as to stack an 'allied OP' poll in their favor now?

Disallow polls in all posts then if they have no meaning.

[Smokaz]

Look if you wanted to you could heroic charge your vickers with behind-green-cover pinning power right into the axis blob and supress them all.

[lionel23]

And you could use a vet 3 axis mortar to suppress all the tommys and bomb their support weapons into oblivion, or a supervising officer to buff a flame HT, or an American officer to inspire assault... now we're getting into something bigger than a 1v1 fight 

[Smokaz]

And you could use a vet 3 axis mortar to suppress all the tommys and bomb their support weapons into oblivion, or a supervising officer to buff a flame HT, or an American officer to inspire assault... now we're getting into something bigger than a 1v1 fight 

There never was a 1v1 fight, if you want a 1v1 fight let me get my red napkin and a rapier.

[DisposableHero]

Look if you wanted to you could heroic charge your vickers with behind-green-cover pinning power right into the axis blob and supress them all.

Assuming the Lt had vet.

[EliteGren]

Jesus how hard is it to get 7 xp?