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Author Topic: Next EIR Map Update Feedback  (Read 9768 times)
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Unkn0wn Offline
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« on: January 10, 2010, 12:55:30 pm »

In my never-ending quest to have our mapping list meet only to the highest criteria, I am considering removing the following maps from the game. Obviously you'll think 'what for, we need more maps not less!' and while that's certainly true, there's not much point in having people download maps that no one wants to play.

The elimination list:
- Hill 331 (6)
- Rails and Metal (4)
- Ardenne Valley (6/8)
- Lanteville (4)
- Semois (4)
- Linden (6)
- Venue (4)
- St Laurent (6)

Raise objections if you feel like it, it's not a definite list Smiley.
Also feel free to suggest other maps. (Tell me why they suck/what they need/etc)

Posting this outside the mapping forum because that way it will get more attention.
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EliteGren Offline
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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2010, 01:07:14 pm »

Why doesn't duck update venue anymore? Or did he do it but it got never put into the updater?
It's a good map, I don't want to see it go.
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i prefer to no u
Don't knock it til uve tried it bitchface, this isn't anything like salads version. Besides u said a semois conversion would never work, now look that's the most played map, ohgodwhy.jpg r u map lead
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2010, 01:08:50 pm »

Lanteville and Venue are fine.

For the most part, the lack of play on these two maps are misleading. We just got 2 brand new 2vs2, and neither of these are PP maps, and ill admit, we do have better 2vs2, but all of that lends to these maps getting little play time.

It's not that their bad at all, it's just that the circumstances (warmap, general tendency towards 3vs3s, etc.) keep these 2 from getting play time.

I havent played venue in awhile but last time i did it was fine cause the city was removed, and it was mirrored so it was fair. In the past week ive played 2 or so games on Lanteville and they were fun.
The center town and single buildings scattered around the flanks make for fun defense points. Hedge play is good too. Not too much shot blocking, but it seperates the map, and is placed in such a way that they dont directly benefit piat and riflenade spam.

Keep them both. Get rid of St. Come Du Monte, or balance it cause right now the north's got the shaft. Open field on the right/north side with hedges seperating city from field. Shit pathing in the city for vehicles, and awkward church placing with the high wall facing the southern team so it obscures LOS.
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2010, 01:10:20 pm »

Yea Venue doesn't really belong on that list I guess, it used to be one of the top rated community maps, everyone even wanted to have it as THE tournament map but I think the last update screwed with it a little too much. Maybe a map update can salvage it Smiley.
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2010, 01:50:32 pm »

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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2010, 02:14:49 pm »

leave Linden alone
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2010, 02:26:41 pm »

Yea Venue doesn't really belong on that list I guess, it used to be one of the top rated community maps, everyone even wanted to have it as THE tournament map but I think the last update screwed with it a little too much. Maybe a map update can salvage it Smiley.

it was good till fags like draken and schultz spammed support weapons on it and made it a wehr favoured map
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2010, 02:29:58 pm »

I can't remember what Venue is.

Semois should go.

Linden is decent enough.

Leave Ardenne for flavour imo.
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2010, 02:33:04 pm »

Yea Venue doesn't really belong on that list I guess, it used to be one of the top rated community maps, everyone even wanted to have it as THE tournament map but I think the last update screwed with it a little too much. Maybe a map update can salvage it Smiley.

it was good till fags like draken and schultz spammed support weapons on it and made it a wehr favoured map
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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2010, 02:59:40 pm »

nobody plays Ardenne Valley because everyone thinks its broken...if that isn't the case, leave it...
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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2010, 03:00:37 pm »

I wouldn't even know Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2010, 03:08:23 pm »

It is broken, when whoever it was resectored it they took the lazy route and just filled in the empty areas with sectors. This leads to some sectors leading from the spawn to the middle of the map. Other sectors if you control them in the middle the enemy cannot cap past their spawn.

Needs sectoring.

St. Laurent also needs a resector. Once thats done its perfectly playable and a fun map.
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Unkn0wn Offline
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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2010, 03:09:30 pm »

Aight, thanks for the heads up AMPM.
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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2010, 03:36:00 pm »

Linden is good, why should we get rid of that?
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2010, 03:47:24 pm »

dont get rid of linden!!
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« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2010, 03:56:00 pm »

Linden should stay.
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« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2010, 05:54:01 pm »

Linden is a good map!

I personally haven't played Hill 331

Rails and Metal I think is a good 2v2 map, though I haven't played it in some time.

Ardenne Valley, I don't think anyone likes that map haha.

Lanteville, haven't played it enough, but I have enjoyed it.
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« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2010, 08:09:54 pm »

Ardenne Valley needs the objective based sectoring back. That was epic
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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2010, 12:59:48 am »

Ardenne needs fixing, then it becomes awesome like good old times! Cheesy

Removing Hill331 on the basis of "saving time updating the map" is moot, as we use the stock vCoH version of it. You never need to dl it.
Same for Rails and Metal.

Lanteville is utter crap, I completely condone the idea of removing it. It's a "pretty" map but that's it - it's terrible gameplay.

Leave Linden alone - it's a great map, even though being taken direct from vCoH and getting an extra player on both sides... It's awesome Smiley.
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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2010, 01:36:02 am »

take out chaeatu and, carentan, both crap maps. Well carentan isn't that bad but my pe hate it lol.

take out mcgechans war, no one plays it.

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