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ahorsley
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first game impresions
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January 19, 2010, 01:10:55 am »
ok just had my first game and anyway we got smashed...
i played PE which i play heaps in vcoh and they seem so weak...i mean yes the new units are heaps cool but everything just dies so fast...
like 2 tankbusters don't even kill stag they are shit and need damage buff or stag needs debuff...
and then a t17 can and sniped all my pzgrens like they where a AC car on crack so bs.
i mean yes i am new so probably retarted at the game and i have not played online in ages.
and why do british need hmg they already are good enough...
i watched some other replays and PE seems like the weakest army in the game and without it's buffs from vcoh like group zeal they can't survive.
i think u need to give PE a buff or some kind of side blocking support weapon.
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Re: first game impresions
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January 19, 2010, 01:25:19 am »
Quote from: ahorsley on January 19, 2010, 01:10:55 am
i played PE which i play heaps in vcoh and they seem so weak...i mean yes the new units are heaps cool but everything just dies so fast...
Use Cover,and i mean don't fight outside of cover.
Quote from: ahorsley on January 19, 2010, 01:10:55 am
like 2 tankbusters don't even kill stag they are shit and need damage buff or stag needs debuff...
and then a t17 can and sniped all my pzgrens like they where a AC car on crack so bs.
Run into a building t17's don't really do much damage while in a building,also for t17's and stags use Light AT HT's,and use treadshot,it makes them go slower and then close in with a clowncar with doubleshreks or a single,or a marder whichever one works for you.
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Quote from: ahorsley on January 19, 2010, 01:10:55 am
i watched some other replays and PE seems like the weakest army in the game and without it's buffs from vcoh like group zeal they can't survive.
i think u need to give PE a buff or some kind of side blocking support weapon.
PE is fine,it's just not vCOH the playstyle is a bit driffrent after a couple of games you should start getting use to it.
If you need help building a PE company ask one of the players. Or i'm sure someone here will post one.
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CrazyWR
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Re: first game impresions
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January 19, 2010, 04:45:10 am »
If you haven't played in awhile, perhaps you missed the recent patches from Relic since 2.301 where in every subsequent patch since then, at least 4, PE has been nerfed. It is clearly the underpowered faction in vanilla COH, here it has a much better chance vs the other 3 factions than in vCOH.
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Unkn0wn
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Re: first game impresions
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January 19, 2010, 05:30:05 am »
Also in EIR the emphasis is on PE being a vehicle based faction (what they were designed for in the first place) rather than an infantry based faction like in vCOH.
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Al3ncon
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Re: first game impresions
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January 19, 2010, 09:47:02 am »
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infantry based faction like in vCOH.
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Mod Edit: one gets the point across.
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Re: first game impresions
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January 19, 2010, 09:52:51 am »
I dont see why your lolling tbh.
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Unkn0wn
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Re: first game impresions
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January 19, 2010, 09:59:55 am »
It's a well known fact that in vCOH the PE are an infantry blobtastic faction.
Maybe less so now than they were at launch, I haven't played vCOH in 6 months or more.
(But I played vCOH extensively when OF came out, on a considerably 'high level')
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Groundfire
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Re: first game impresions
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January 19, 2010, 10:39:56 am »
Quote from: ahorsley on January 19, 2010, 01:10:55 am
ok just had my first game and anyway we got smashed...
i played PE which i play heaps in vcoh and they seem so weak...i mean yes the new units are heaps cool but everything just dies so fast...
like 2 tankbusters don't even kill stag they are shit and need damage buff or stag needs debuff...
and then a t17 can and sniped all my pzgrens like they where a AC car on crack so bs.
i mean yes i am new so probably retarted at the game and i have not played online in ages.
and why do british need hmg they already are good enough...
i watched some other replays and PE seems like the weakest army in the game and without it's buffs from vcoh like group zeal they can't survive.
i think u need to give PE a buff or some kind of side blocking support weapon.
All these are problems you are having are strictly conducive to the fact that you havent played online in ages.
If you have been playing skrimishes primarily then anything below the "extra extra hard" setting (yes i know there isnt one) will not have you prepared to play here.
You know that leaderboard in RO? Quite a few people at the top of that leader board play here. They are sometimes considered the best of the best, or really high up there. So your gonna have trouble when you run into them, or anyone else that regularly plays against them.
Unless your playing skrimish on easy, 2 tankbusters were never capable of beating a top mounted MG staghound, or a T17 in any sphere of play unless your micro was fucking fantastic.
You need marders, and if your not used to using them, then you should start practicing.
On a higher note, you'll eventually notice that PE halftracks and ACs no longer take small arms damage, so use that to your advantage.
You just need to play a bit more, and find people your skill level to play against.
Come on vent and ask a helper and he'll point you in the right direction.
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crimsonrabbit
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Re: first game impresions
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Reply #8 on:
January 19, 2010, 10:56:45 am »
stay in cover and steer clear of T17s and Stags unless you have schreck HTs, marder, upgun hotchkisses, or a panther. (all of them at the same time is not that bad either.)
Always scout w/ schwimmens and use that mortar HT to its full effect, which means only barrage from the farthest extent of its range because it can be AT gun creeped due to its smaller range compared to other mortars.
each units only has one purpose and that's it. Marders and TB grens for armor, pgrens and assault grens for infantry, and mortar Hts for whatever. No jack of all trades in this faction unless you go Tank Hunter. The jagd is a good super heavy.
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Re: first game impresions
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January 19, 2010, 10:58:52 am »
Good post Groundfire
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Mgallun74
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Re: first game impresions
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January 19, 2010, 12:24:34 pm »
eventhou iam a turd at this game.. i find it lucky that when i bought this game and started playing it, i started here, i didnt even start in Vcoh... so i find this mod great and fun, i go to Vcoh and its like omg this sucks balls lol.
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Mysthalin
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Re: first game impresions
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January 19, 2010, 12:46:43 pm »
As crowned king of cheese-coy(since puddin is on leave, It's fairly undisputed) I must declare that PE has quite literally the most potential to be horribly OP if spamming the right stuff ;P. It's hardly the weakest faction of the mod at the moment - if anything, that would be Infantry US(well, AB and armor can actually fend for themselves).
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Re: first game impresions
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Reply #12 on:
January 19, 2010, 11:57:24 pm »
Quote from: Mysthalin on January 19, 2010, 12:46:43 pm
As crowned king of cheese-coy(since puddin is on leave, It's fairly undisputed) I must declare that PE has quite literally the most potential to be horribly OP if spamming the right stuff ;P. It's hardly the weakest faction of the mod at the moment - if anything, that would be Infantry US(well, AB and armor can actually fend for themselves).
I shall usurp your weak rule! Coup d'etat!
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Demon767
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Re: first game impresions
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January 20, 2010, 02:24:00 am »
agreed, US infantry is no doubt the weakest faction considering zooks damage/penetration/accuracy and the chance you take outfitting them with thompsons.
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Re: first game impresions
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Reply #14 on:
January 20, 2010, 02:53:59 am »
why are 6 ranger thompson squads so OP, i love having 2 separate types of ranger squads =(
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OneMind
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Re: first game impresions
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Reply #15 on:
January 20, 2010, 02:57:02 am »
I'm am also relatively new to this mod (a couple of weeks) and I had the same problem 'getting smashed' and I'm US. Eir is like a baptism of fire, you'll get the hang of it eventually. On a side note I have a really hard time with PE because of their mortar halftracks and cloaking kettens, so maybe experiment with those a bit, dunno.
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Demon767
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Re: first game impresions
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January 20, 2010, 03:04:14 am »
well all i hope is that the infantry doctrine will give you the option to purchase 3 zooks on rangers and 2 on rifleman
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Two
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Re: first game impresions
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January 20, 2010, 03:46:58 am »
2 zookas on rifles, i know what my company will look like
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