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Killer344 Offline
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« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2010, 09:42:59 pm »

I only had the T3 that gives all Churchills 15%HP, MkVIs are just reliable counters to P4s and infantry at the same time, and with a CCT for 2 pop, you pretty much always have the upper hand.
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« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2010, 09:46:47 pm »

I can't pretend to know everyone of the doctrine abilities by heart, but whatever doctrine ability Killer had buffing his churchill made it retarded. It slaughtered my P4 and was gibbing infantry reliably.

 Yes, if we willingly ignore the fact that it had a CCT following it, and an ATG got 2 penetrated shots in on the P4 aswell. 

 Way to be objective.

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« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2010, 09:58:32 pm »

Thanks for the correction
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« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2010, 10:42:49 pm »

to be honest all Brit Tanks but the croc and AVRE must be followed by a CCT to make them so much better.  this is the only reason why any brit tank is worth buying, because a vet2 CCT provides such a large reload bonus not to mention 5 more range and slightly more sight.
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« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2010, 10:46:34 pm »

teh. i never use cct's to buff my tanks, i use it for anti infantry and shot block
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TheWindCriesMary Offline
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« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2010, 10:48:03 pm »

teh. i never use cct's to buff my tanks, i use it for anti infantry and shot block

 Then you have never lived man.

 It's like a whole new world out there.  Tongue

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spinn72 Offline
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« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2010, 11:02:28 pm »

teh. i never use cct's to buff my tanks, i use it for anti infantry and shot block

 Then you have never lived man.

 It's like a whole new world out there.  Tongue

 -Wind

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it's the only reason wind's firefly has like 858xp.
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« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2010, 11:03:47 pm »

teh. i never use cct's to buff my tanks, i use it for anti infantry and shot block

 Then you have never lived man.

 It's like a whole new world out there.  Tongue

 -Wind

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it's the only reason wind's firefly has like 858xp.

noo its called un doctrined axis companies

you know what i mean  Wink
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Mysthalin Offline
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« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2010, 12:21:29 am »


And you realize the croc has the same gun as the MkIV yes?  Wink
And who buys the croc for it's main gun? You can't even bloody target the main gun - you're just using the flamethrower. The main gun becomes what a .30 cal is on a sherman - nothing more than a "nice" graphic that sometimes does something, but you don't rely on it to be effective.
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« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2010, 12:25:39 am »

The Churchill Mk VI will be removed from the game because its just a straight upgrade to the Mk IV. The unit didn't fill any specific role in the game and completely overshadowed the Mk IV. In return, the Mk IV will be receiving some buffs to make it a more viable tank.
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« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2010, 12:29:55 am »

The Churchill Mk VI will be removed from the game because its just a straight upgrade to the Mk IV. The unit didn't fill any specific role in the game and completely overshadowed the Mk IV. In return, the Mk IV will be receiving some buffs to make it a more viable tank.
You're also removing the grenadier, seeing as it's a straight upgrade to the volksgrenadier that completely overshadows the volk. In return, the volks will be receiving some buffs to make them a more viable infantry unit.
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bbsmith Offline
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« Reply #31 on: March 05, 2010, 12:32:52 am »

But those two units are vcoh units that fit in the game. the 75mm Churchill was just a unit we added to the game with a 75mm gun on a normal Churchill. The Volks and the Gren have different roles and one doesn't replace the other.
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« Reply #32 on: March 05, 2010, 12:41:44 am »

And the 75mm fits in the game as well. We all know the normal churchil sucks donkey cock and nobody would ever want one - doesn't matter if the 75mm exists or not. The MK IV doesn't fullfill ANY role - it's like a bigger, slower stuart that doesn't have canister shot. Even a cromwell is a better tank than the MK IV. Heck, I'd rather take a staghound with no MG for anti-inf and anti-vehicle duty. It'd be cheaper and far more effective.

The simple fact of the matter is that the Mk IV and the Mk VI do fulfil different roles. The Mk IV fulfils a role of being useless, while the Mk VI is actually useful. That's the difference.
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« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2010, 08:30:06 pm »

Or maybe Tank Shock and the Mine Plow should be free on the MkIV? Maybe cheaper repairs, or a cheaper MkIV on the whole?
What about this? Everyone's seemed to ignore it,, but I can;t see why it wouldn't work.
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« Reply #34 on: June 03, 2010, 08:15:31 am »

delete the mk4 and replace it with the mk6 and give th brits something else Huh theres plenty out there, comets hahaha
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« Reply #35 on: June 03, 2010, 08:46:58 am »

yeah,mobile 17pdr ftw  Grin

archer or centurion also...
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« Reply #36 on: June 03, 2010, 09:16:19 am »

delete the mk4 and replace it with the mk6 and give th brits something else Huh theres plenty out there, comets hahaha

that would be OP. churchil has too much health and schrecks wont penetrate the front.

but then again... roos as t1 is also OP, why not break the doctrine completely?  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #37 on: June 03, 2010, 09:23:33 am »

delete the mk4 and replace it with the mk6 and give th brits something else Huh theres plenty out there, comets hahaha

that would be OP. churchil has too much health and schrecks wont penetrate the front.

but then again... roos as t1 is also OP, why not break the doctrine completely?  Roll Eyes
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Oh, you mean like nothing penetrates the front armor of a jagd? Or that it takes half your AT to take down a KT? A comet would be like the allies only tru super heavy and it'd manly be a tank destroyer rather than an all around like the tiger and kt. Plus, sense it would be mainly a TD, schrecks would be the best way to combat them and paks, it wouldnt' be a powerful as u think tbh.
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« Reply #38 on: June 03, 2010, 09:29:26 am »

Unfortunaltly the Comet would be useless against the kt, i mean as soon as the see it they press the magical V1 button and all issues disappear.
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« Reply #39 on: June 03, 2010, 09:35:32 am »

you could always counter that by moving your tank :x
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