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[lionel23]

I have not forfeited my decision, but since you can't accept rational arguments from Mys, who has provided plenty of coding (and I believe the animation) counter argument and you still insist they go all the way with 'fixing' it even though he has said that wouldn't make a difference and you love to seem to keep hammering the point like the EIRR team is doing something wrong here.

It's hard to argue against Mys, he is (I honestly think) the EIRR Community Guru when it comes to all things like number crunching and stats, lol.

Also, rational people don't rely on excessive cursing, throwing ad hominem attacks, or insinuating that the fix has made it worse off for the M10 (argumentum ad populum), among other things you've said in this thread.  You've made it very clear you're hostile when everyone else is calmly giving you reasons why it can't be done with a snap of a finger, but you refuse to listen to anyone else's voice but your own, which you seem you have to drown out by EMPHASIZING EVERYTHING I SAY IN BIG BOLD LETTERS TO MAKE MY POINT OVERRIDE YOURS.  Seriously, real adult debaters do this? I wish I could have seen Obama cursing at McCain like that and honestly what do you think people's reaction to that would have been?

I have taken debate and public speaking classes, and I'm quite good at those things, thank you very much.  A debate should be about bringing up points and arguments relevant to the topic on hand, not demonizing your detractors as 'fucking idiots'.

[DeutscherStahl]

I have taken debate and public speaking classes, and I'm quite good at those things, thank you very much.  A debate should be about bringing up points and arguments relevant to the topic on hand, not demonizing your detractors as 'fucking idiots'.

tbh when you people realize what a bug that has been around since CoH started is, and stop calling something that isn't a bug a bug, then I'll stop calling you fucking idiots.

[EliteGren]

No you will not call ANYONE a fucking idiot from now on. You are 1 inch away from getting a vacation.

Cool it. Everyone.

[jackmccrack]

He just wants the M10 to be more micro friendly.

[pqumsieh]

He just wants the M10 to be more noob friendly.

PQ

[jackmccrack]

DeutscherStahl, the Allied Armor T3 Improved Armor helps a little bit: +25% hp M10s and M18s

[DeutscherStahl]

He just wants the M10 to be more noob friendly.

Rofl @ considering people who micro noobs

DeutscherStahl, the Allied Armor T3 Improved Armor helps a little bit: +25% hp M10s and M18s

That doesn't change the fact there's still a major bug that people are opposing be fixed...

[Mysthalin]

Except that there isn't any more.

[lionel23]

Well, clearly deutcher is already experiencing a loss in gameplay experience due to the graphics being wonky after the half-window fix that's been done.
This half-window that was implemented already removed nearly all of the miss-fires that do happen, and further reducing this window would be pretty much pointless - it'd be like fixing something that's not broken. If we took out all of the wind-up, the animation would look even more wonky without actually achieving any further (noticeable) fix in miss-fire bugs.

I think the main reason why the devs do not actually want to remove the wind-up bug completely is in the hopes that the coding team can fix the M10 animation to match the current wind-up.
Now, hoping they will redo the entire animation is just laughable - but that's what they would have to do should they remove the wind-up completely. Keeping the wind-up at the half window all they have to do is modify the existing animation. That in itself is a daunting task, but it's a whole lot easier than making the animation from scratch.

And I quote the all mighty Mysthalin here, no one is opposing totally fixing it, just it can't be done easily and quickly, and that you should be happy they gave us some sort of fix instead of none at all.

[DeutscherStahl]

Except that there isn't any more.

And somehow I'm not allowed to call you a fucking idiot for posts like these

@lionel

They have said absolutely nothing about matching up the animation at all, and there doesn't seem to be any intention to. It's up to the devs to prove me wrong there.

[jackmccrack]

The M10 still misfires. I think that is what Deutscher is getting at.

[Demon767]

[Killer344]

There isn't any need for someone with a "tag", to tell people if they are wrong or not.

calling something that isn't a bug a bug, then I'll stop calling you fucking idiots.

Okay, do it again and you'll learn the hard way how the forums work here.