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[Eternal Play]

Once again I've gotten my ass handed to me by T17s. And once again I cried and whined and called it OP.

However, the good players in the community disagrees with this. The conclusion must be that I simply suck at fighting the inf-grinding machine.

I've tried dual panther companies, 4-5 PaK companies, Gessys, mass shrecks, all have failed. If anyone have any ideas as to how you kill the fast little wasps, please advice.

Thanks - Eternal

[Smokaz]

Volk mine spam

Blocking with light vehicles

Minespam in general

Stormies with shreks

[Demon767]

Mines.

Medium Tanks.

Micro.

[TheArea]

Reroll PE and go OP teller mines problem solved.  With Wher, their mines are a lot less useful and effective.

[Unkn0wn]

Safest start atm if you're having trouble is going with a P4.

[Two]

2 peices of at like a shrek and pak, problem solved.

[RedDevilNarref]

AT Inf or ATGs don't stand a chance against T-17, your only option is to use a tank, rather medium than heavy since they can unmmobilice it easily, (stug, or p4), and if it's possible support it with other AT unit. As long as there are T-17 on the field keep ur tanks close to your infatry and protect them at any cost, also remember to keep your inf in green cover.

[TheWindCriesMary]

Reroll PE and go OP teller mines problem solved.  

 When light vehicle spammers tell you they think something is OP, thats when you know its the right unit to use.

 I'm starting a revolution baby. You know all those guys who have been basking in the power of T17's and Stag spam companies? They wont even know what spam is by the time im done with em.

I'm gonna have all of them in tears in by the end of the week.

 -Wind

 Ps. There is nothing wrong with spamming t17s or stags. Its a perfectly viable tactic. My point is, so is spamming the counters to it hehe

[Tymathee]

Also, try to stay out of open and negative cover, it gets 25% more acc vs targets in open and 50% vs targets in negative. 100% vs light cover but -25% damage and -50 acc vs green I love having fausts ready on my volks, it usually keeps thema way from my infantry for the majority of the match always keep a schreck near your pak if u know he's spamming and use tanks, they have M8 armor, so tanks are real good vs them but schrecks do -25% dmg vs them best to use paks and tanks but schrecks and fausts near your paks make good counters just so you dont get your pak circle jerked and panthers kick their butt cuz u can stand off and kite 'em and also chase 'em down if needed.

[skaffa]

You mean the Tellermine spam tactic from MachineGunBunker, I know who he is and it aint you.

[Mysthalin]

Stormies with shreks

No longer an option due to jeep infantry awareness T1.

[TheArea]

For 70 munis teller mines not only kill any and all light vehichles but, took a full health M10 to 5% maybe less, and can flat out kill a fresh M18.  Dunno, but that seems a bit much to me. 

Spammer he says?  I have 3 Stags and 2 M8s, they suck compared to Hetzers who bounce pershing shots,  Marders that hit ATGs as well as sniper hit their crews, panther spam, and x2 tiger cos.  Ill take the axis vehichles any day. 

[TheWindCriesMary]

You mean the Tellermine spam tactic from MachineGunBunker, I know who he is and it aint you.

 Crazy and I have discussed our strategies/battalions and come to the conclusion that they are different.

 Keep up the grudge.

 -Wind

[Two]

Pfft, i created the idea of teller spam before either of you, it was my tourny tactic, ofc your both using modified versions.

[TheWindCriesMary]

Pfft, i created the idea of teller spam before either of you, it was my tourny tactic, ofc your both using modified versions.

 I'm not sure where the question of "who started it first" came up, but its pretty irellevant. Especially considering the silliness of "a revolution" as an idea.

 But seriously folks, starting a revolution is a whole different ball-game. Its about getting the axis en masse to send the t17s and stags packing and scurrying back to the atlantic.

 This isn't about one company, its about a change in the metagame! This is about spamming light vehicle counters to the max, until they don't even want to dream of having those things in their company. We all have the power!

 -Wind

[Baine]

This isn't about one company, its about a change in the metagame! This is about spamming light vehicle counters to the max, until they don't even want to dream of having those things in their company. We all have the power!

 -Wind

If you are PE you mean. Wehr's options don't look that good.

[TheWindCriesMary]

 You might very well have a point there Baine. I haven't played Wehr much at all in this current metagame so I can't say I'm experienced with their counters, but I can say what I found to be troublesome when using my brit staghounds and mines definetely still fall in that category (wehr ones).

 I think a combination of shreks (which are being lowered to  120) and mine spam coupled with a few paks in your company could be an interesting thing to look into for a Wehr player.

 -Wind

[Groundfire]

 (which are being lowered to  120)

 -Wind

This is fuckin huge, thanks for spilling the beans.

[CrazyWR]

like others have stated, mines, volks mines, medium tanks, multiple pieces of AT.

[chefarzt]

And always remember even while repairing and immobile this thing dodges shrecks and pz4 shot.