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Author Topic: Lightning War is.. still awesome  (Read 12171 times)
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« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2010, 11:06:06 am »

He never drops on purpose.
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Awww, would be quite the party though!


And the new Carentan map can help allies who jump buildings, great 'shot blocking' for flanking and stickies too.  Been in a few games where some of my allies just stand in the road while axis troops run by them and into those 6+ window buildings... argh!

One thing is I wish the church in the center was facing south and not towards west as that building can really lock the entire center with an MG42.
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« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2010, 03:51:38 pm »

Any chance we can get a .7.7 replay of LW?
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« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2010, 03:54:31 pm »

Computer, Fatfreddy and Elite are all running it now. So yes its probable. (Jinker's getting it too.)

I had a 4v4 the other day where we had 34 starting pop, attacking.
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« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2010, 04:14:22 pm »

Ill post a replay soon,truely one of the most beautiful t4's i've seen
It might even rival...ferocity..
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« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2010, 04:25:52 pm »

beautiful meaning exceptionallyu  powerful when used right and nearly unbeatable, in order words, OP?
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« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2010, 04:30:34 pm »

Not really tym,it's purely based on skill it adds no buffs to infantry other than for the 1st 40 seconds of the game.... Explain to me how that is OP?

75% off call-in timers isn't nearly as powerful as you think your company  will just exhaust itself faster if not used correctly.
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« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2010, 04:38:20 pm »

Its really good, but comparing it to ferocity.. I dont know. ferocity was more mc hammer, lightning war is more chopin.
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« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2010, 09:34:41 pm »

Not really tym,it's purely based on skill it adds no buffs to infantry other than for the 1st 40 seconds of the game.... Explain to me how that is OP?

75% off call-in timers isn't nearly as powerful as you think your company  will just exhaust itself faster if not used correctly.

Having higher pop to start than the allies, being able to run right up to just outside the Allies Spawn before they can get out of their spawn doesn't sound a little OP to you. Good luck getting a game unless you smurf.

There was supposed to be a doctrine rework to get rid of the unbalanced doctrines. This just puts us right back to the same bullshit we had before.
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« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2010, 09:42:11 pm »

There was supposed to be a doctrine rework to get rid of the unbalanced doctrines. This just puts us right back to the same bullshit we had before.


Because perishings that come back 3 or 4 times aren't OP

The t4 does nothing to buff your infantry,or tanks....just my shits comes flying at you faster than it normally would be...it's only really good for massive backcap.
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« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2010, 09:50:25 pm »

There was supposed to be a doctrine rework to get rid of the unbalanced doctrines. This just puts us right back to the same bullshit we had before.


Because perishings that come back 3 or 4 times aren't OP

The t4 does nothing to buff your infantry,or tanks....just my shits comes flying at you faster than it normally would be...it's only really good for massive backcap.

Most front lines start at the middle of the battlefield with close to equal area capped. The battle ensues to out cap your opponent...back and forth you go.

With Lightning war, the battle is moved to just outside the allies spawn with 90% of the map capped in the axis favor. Adding to this is the increased pop to start the battle. Now the entire battle revolves around getting out of our spawn area and battling just to get to the half way point.

This puts the Allies at a massive disadvantage before the battle even begins.

I have yet to witness a Pershing that comes back 3 or 4 times, but perhaps it is true. A Pershing can not cap 90% of the map before you can even get your units outside of your spawn sector. I really don't think it is a comparison to the discussion at hand.
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« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2010, 10:05:49 pm »

Lightning war company does not benifit from PAK spam so a perishing tears up a lightning war company tbh,unless a panther emerges....Anywho it's not that fast....volks rush up almost as fast as a t17 does....seriously i get there like 10-20 seconds ealier than most people...anywho if i rush your spawn like an idiot it's 2v1 or 3v1..not exaactly the best idea.
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« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2010, 10:09:34 pm »

You don't even need Lightning War to rush someone's spawn. Get some HTs
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« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2010, 10:16:02 pm »

You don't even need Lightning War to rush someone's spawn. Get some HTs

Would those be the HT's I used to have before the fuel nerf......

Computer, they nerfed the T17, so your argument is not really valid.
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« Reply #33 on: March 24, 2010, 10:17:31 pm »

This is not the balance forum. If you want to discuss the replay, go ahead.

If you have balance concerns then feel free to post in the balance forum.
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« Reply #34 on: March 24, 2010, 10:23:17 pm »

I wasn't aruging anything about firepower tho,unless they lowered its speed?
Would it help if i said it gets to the front as fast as an m8?
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« Reply #35 on: March 25, 2010, 01:53:33 am »

Lightning War is very good for people like aloha with not enough battlefield overview

"Anyone some AT i have nothing and there are 3M10 and 4T17 incomming. Oh shit we are fucked. Puhh good that i have lightning war getting some shreks and a P4"

and often these lightning war guys are out of units very quickly (like smokaz in most of his broadcasts cause he does the most work early game) so hold on and be patient
capping at the beginning is not that important
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« Reply #36 on: March 25, 2010, 04:09:05 am »

Having higher pop to start than the allies, being able to run right up to just outside the Allies Spawn before they can get out of their spawn doesn't sound a little OP to you. Good luck getting a game unless you smurf.

There was supposed to be a doctrine rework to get rid of the unbalanced doctrines. This just puts us right back to the same bullshit we had before.

Lol!! The extra pop is basicly enough to get 1 extra machinegun and unlike other doctrines the lighning war tree doesnt totally overbuff ur units. Also hanging out infront of the spawn is probaly not he smartest thing to do (spawnbuff anyone?). Seriously silliest crap i read in a while.
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« Reply #37 on: March 25, 2010, 03:21:58 pm »

I dont see how Bigdick can think capping at the beginning is unimportant, and tank saying LW capping at the beginning makes it imbalanced.. what are they seeing so differently?
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« Reply #38 on: March 25, 2010, 07:37:11 pm »

Lightning War is very good for people like aloha with not enough battlefield overview

"Anyone some AT i have nothing and there are 3M10 and 4T17 incomming. Oh shit we are fucked. Puhh good that i have lightning war getting some shreks and a P4"

and often these lightning war guys are out of units very quickly (like smokaz in most of his broadcasts cause he does the most work early game) so hold on and be patient
capping at the beginning is not that important
capping at the beginning is always important. you get more pops earlier in the game than the other team
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« Reply #39 on: March 25, 2010, 07:42:13 pm »

Lightning War is very good for people like aloha with not enough battlefield overview

"Anyone some AT i have nothing and there are 3M10 and 4T17 incomming. Oh shit we are fucked. Puhh good that i have lightning war getting some shreks and a P4"

and often these lightning war guys are out of units very quickly (like smokaz in most of his broadcasts cause he does the most work early game) so hold on and be patient
capping at the beginning is not that important
capping at the beginning is always important. you get more pops earlier in the game than the other team

Especially when theres 70 pop of armor on. No matter how nice it is to have the t17 cap, it can be prevented by a single infantry man.
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