T17's are Utterly Ridiculous

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[CrazyWR]

I mean the thing that is most ridiculous is I started with what should be a hard counter - an upgun puma and a pak. Should easily win. But they killed EVERYTHING so quickly there is nothing you can do.

rofl, no, it should not.  that should kill 1 easily.  with 2, you need another piece of AT...2 pieces of AT is NOT > 2 vehicles/tanks.  l2p before you whine.

[nugnugx]

if you had an upgun puma and pak and u got pwned by t17 it means u fail

[Masacree]

Meh, I hate the fuckers who are like - zomg I'm so much better at eir than you, I just laugh at t17s as their bullets fail to penetrate my steel abs, just use non infantry based at, and you will too! Without watching the fucking replay, in which I clearly did not use ANY infantry based AT!

[Masacree]

if you had an upgun puma and pak and u got pwned by t17 it means u fail

Watch the fucking replay, moron.

[nugnugx]

another thread " i fail at playing and will whine it at the unit "  instead of altering your company to always have a solution to different units

[Unkn0wn]

Support weapons are unreliable against a light vehicle start in R+ too.

No more flames or I'll start removing posts and giving vacations.

[Masacree]

another thread " i fail at playing and will whine it at the unit "

Watch the fucking replay. I did EVERYTHING right - cloaked my pak as soon as I saw them, used my puma to block for the pak, dropped smoke on my mortar so it wouldn't die instantly, but it was all in vain.

You are a fucking idiot for making these assumptions without even WATCHING THE FUCKING REPLAY.

[CrazyWR]

so you're just going to ignore the post I made?  Your start doesn't counter multiple vehicle starts, get over it. 

[nugnugx]

2 t17 > puma pak


nothing OP about it ,  even 2 quads would probably kill u rightly microed

[Masacree]

2 t17 > puma pak


nothing OP about it ,  even 2 quads would probably kill u rightly microed

Yea, coz that's what your last post implies - (zomg you lost to t17 witha  puma and a pak? fail)

Wow, you're an idiot.

so you're just going to ignore the post I made?  Your start doesn't counter multiple vehicle starts, get over it. 

Okay, so I should bring 2 upgun pumas and 2 pak guns in my start? What do I cap with? How do I kill infantry?

...

Fucking genius.

[nugnugx]

2 t17 > puma pak


nothing OP about it ,  even 2 quads would probably kill u rightly microed

Yea, coz that's what your last post implies - (zomg you lost to t17 witha  puma and a pak? fail)

Wow, you're an idiot.

loosing puma and pak to t17 is fail ,

loosing puma and pak to 2 t17 is nothing to be making a new thread about

[CrazyWR]

Why do you insist on using a puma?  If you hear vehicles, do a p4 start/pak start.  If you don't, you don't need an upgun puma anyways. 

[Unkn0wn]

To be fair, you're making too big of a deal out of this, 2 M8s could have beaten the pak + puma  start just as well. It seems like your real beef here has to be with the gamemode, not the T17.

That's pretty much what everyone has been saying, don't get angry over it.

What if someone starts with 2 upgunned shermans? What if someone starts with 6+ halftracks? What if someone brings only infantry? These are ALL scenarios that you need to be prepared for in R+.  Like I said in an earlier post, in R+ you have to play it smart or you have to play it safe. And your starting call in was not a safe start against a 'gimmicky' vehicle based start, surely you can agree.

I think we're done here.