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[rifle87654]

The idea is from the last mission "Chambois" from the vCoH campaign of "Invasion of Normandy"
So the idea is below:
Two sides:
1.The "pocket closer"
2.The "escaper"
Objective:
1.Close the pocket(By linking up the two seperate areas by the own team) or destroy 60% of the convoy.
2.Escape the pocket or escort 40% of the convoy to the another side of the map, and also escape ALL of your own troops in your battalion(So everyone's getting busy).
The map settings:
1, 2 and 3, 4 are the closer, two of them will be on the one side, the other two are on the another.
5, 6, 7, 8 are the escaper, all on the same side.
The convoy info:
They are been called out with a button near the company commander button(the place with recon run and smoke),
5 at a time cost no pop cap.They can be any units, so if you're lucky, you'll got a tiger at a disposal, and if you're unlucky, you'll got a pak(but you can still decrew them and let them run using the retreat button, risky cause you can't control them and they'll run to the other side).
Did I forget any aspects?

 

[LeoPhone]

someone has to code all of that, then we need to get a second version of every single map, and then we need to balance it.

omgmod has some extra gamemode where you need to cap random buildings on the map that give you extra pop. was that a success?

[NightRain]

I'd like to achive something during game. If it is just cap, destroy spam, repeat it kinda gets boring. Having a funny new way of playing would be awsome. Cap that building it gives pop is a great idea. Too bad OMG has it so it would be copying to put it in EIRR

[LeoPhone]

OMG basically stole EiR, now we just need some spy that infiltrates into their developer team and steals the code for the new gamemode

and the game isnt just about capping, if someone brings a KT on the field the game is about KILL KT!!!

[rifle87654]

I don't know much about omg except seeing their fourms and on moddb, not interested because i got eir already
and you have a map already done:
"Chambois" map
just make a conversion and it's done
remember they have a Canadian forces to the north and the US at the south (the campaign settings)

[CrazyWR]

someone has to code all of that, then we need to get a second version of every single map, and then we need to balance it.

omgmod has some extra gamemode where you need to cap random buildings on the map that give you extra pop. was that a success?

its not bad, but it doesnt give you extra pop.  The point is to capture the area around the building for VP's, which add up to give your team a win.  It certainly focuses the fight on that one area, to the decrement of other action, which I'm not sure I like.  However, since pop is still controlled by sectors capped, the backcapping continues.  But it tends to decrease the amount of flanking in favor of a more WWI type action

[Tymathee]

It's still possible in EIR. Just enable victory points back in but you have the VP's centered around towns and such. I think it could be fun.

We also need atk/def back, i miss it, no one plays it enuff.

[Lai]

The term 'closer' already exists when vet units are about to die.

[deadbolt]

riflespam/piospam cap all points gg

[CrazyWR]

riflespam/piospam cap all points gg

no not rly...

[Unkn0wn]

New gamemodes are very welcome, but keep in mind that they should be gamemodes that don't require the user to really alter his company before hand as that makes it needlessly complex.

[Tymathee]

How about an annihilation game mode. the pop meter is turned off, no capping isn't needed and turned off if possible and the whole point is to make the other player exhaust his whole company.

You could even start off at full 40 pop so the game doesn't take as long. You wont have to really altar your company, you still have the 25 pop and you just call in something else.

Another idea would be a small company game-mode where the pop meter stays at 25 the whole game so everything is relegated to small unit tactics.

Or maybe a "fast battle" game mode that's kinda like my annihilation idea, you start at 40 and it stays at 40 and the pop counter goes quicker so games last maybe 20-30 minutes instead of the normal 40+.

then there's another idea i'm having where you start at 40 and the pop counter goes down instead of going up, so the longer the game goes, the smaller the call ins are. It'd be kind of a long range tactics type mode where instead of a lot of untis on the field, there's a need for smaller tactics as the game goes on.

I'd also love to see infantry only and tank only modes but that'd require altering companies and u said you dont want that so there are my 4 (5?)

[LeoPhone]

and then what will stop people from camping their spawn if you dont have to cap territory?

also, popmeter should go up. you get more and more units, which is fun, rewarding but also harder for you to control.

the real micro pr0s can show their skill lategame.

[Unkn0wn]

We used to have annihilation gamemode back in the very first version of EIR, there's a reason we moved away from it.

[Tymathee]

We used to have annihilation gamemode back in the very first version of EIR, there's a reason we moved away from it.

what was that? spawn camping? it was the least of my favorites tbh.

My favorite is the reverse game mode and the fast game mode idea. although the small tactics sounds good too. I come up with these things on the fly btw and throw them out there as my mind goes, so i may not even like an idea i come p with in the long run lol

but i do think we need a good fast battle mode tbh, maybe the pop timer goes faster or something. Someties you just want a quick game of EIR and to have to sit there for 45+ minutes in a game could kinda suck. Plus, you can get in more games in a day that way for those who like to play lots of games.

then the reverse game mode introduces new tactics. No longer do you hold out to spam later, but maybe you spam early and then  you do your 2 rifles + tank later. heck, you can even save a 25 pop call in for late game. I think that could be interesting.

Maybe the faster you cap, the faster your opponent loses pop rather than the other way around, the more territory you hold, the faster you gain pop, so you can end up with after 30 minutes, a 32 vs 25 pop game cuz you hold a lot of ground. It would reward players more IMO to cap rather than kill and play better tactics.

[Unkn0wn]

A blitzkrieg gamemode does sound sexy, near instant call-in timers, faster capping and speed bonus at start.
(Not convinced personally it should go over 40 pop or even start at 40 pop though)

[Tymathee]

Yea, that sounds good. I dont want things to go over 40 pop, i like the 40 pop threshold and tactics start to degrade the more pop you have, it just becomes a spam fest.

the only problem i see with near isntant call in timers/ faster capping and speed bonus would be it would make certain doc abilities useless.

[LeoPhone]

cant the attacking team in attack/defend gamemode get these abilities to give them some sort of extra help at the first minutes of the match?

[Unkn0wn]

they already get extra pop

[LeoPhone]

yah, 3 pop extra, what is basically always useless at the begin becouse you start with 25 pop starting callin, and all other callins are 6 pop+

also, once the attacking team has breaken trough the defenses, they keep their extra pop till the end of the game. thats just unbalanced.

if they get some cappin buff or some extra long spawnbuff (just faster movement or less supression) just for the first few minutes of the game seems much better, no more imbalance lategame.