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kitekaze
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Crushing?
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April 19, 2010, 09:49:35 pm »
So, it all the same: a jeep come up from nowhere blocking a retreat king tiger, a bike quickly catch up a pershing, screwing its pathfinding before the tank become wrecked.
Is that really fine at all? A 45-ton tanks can do nothing to a 1-ton vehicle? I would suggest that several heavy class tank(namely Pershing, Churchill, Tiger, Panther, King Tiger, Jagdpanther) should be allowed to crush small vehicle like a rat.
Possible?
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Demon767
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Re: Crushing?
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April 19, 2010, 10:18:28 pm »
http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=11345.0
http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=11602.0
http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=5627.0
http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=7152.0
http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=5336.0
Look at the outcome of the exact same question asked.
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kitekaze
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Re: Crushing?
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April 19, 2010, 11:46:49 pm »
Why something has been asked too many times and yet no result?
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Mysthalin
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Re: Crushing?
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April 19, 2010, 11:48:17 pm »
Because it has never been backed up with enough arguments.
I can ask for volks to recieve mininuke launchers 20 times over the course of a year, and they MAY implement it to finally keep me shut(or just outright ban me off the forums), but it still won't mean I'll provide good argumentation as to WHY volks should get mininukes.
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Tymathee
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Re: Crushing?
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April 19, 2010, 11:53:08 pm »
because vehicles have no avoidance and you'd have them being ran over ALOT
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kitekaze
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Re: Crushing?
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April 20, 2010, 12:49:37 am »
Quote from: Tymathee on April 19, 2010, 11:53:08 pm
because vehicles have no avoidance and you'd have them being ran over ALOT
Nah, I just suggest Heavy Tank(see above) over Small Vehicle(like jeep, bike, swimm, bren...). Unless heavy tank is attached with jetpack, there's no way they can ride over or even catch up with them.
The gameplay has much been different than vanilla. To kill a super-tank by exploiting with pathing, it's not a true player skill.
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Tymathee
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Re: Crushing?
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April 20, 2010, 01:35:51 am »
Quote from: kitekaze on April 20, 2010, 12:49:37 am
Quote from: Tymathee on April 19, 2010, 11:53:08 pm
because vehicles have no avoidance and you'd have them being ran over ALOT
Nah, I just suggest Heavy Tank(see above) over Small Vehicle(like jeep, bike, swimm, bren...). Unless heavy tank is attached with jetpack, there's no way they can ride over or even catch up with them.
The gameplay has much been different than vanilla. To kill a super-tank by exploiting with pathing, it's not a true player skill.
what im saying is, say you forget your unit is there, it wont move out of the way on its own. i think battle of the buldge enabled this and scouting units were just useless cuz they died so many ways and dont get me started on at guns being crushable lmao
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nugnugx
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Re: Crushing?
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April 20, 2010, 03:04:25 am »
KT should be the only one that can crush jeeps , and nothing more.
KT being blocked by jeep lol spam is pretty silly tbh.
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smurfORnot
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Re: Crushing?
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April 20, 2010, 03:55:22 am »
needles to say,he won't even be able to kill them with his uber fast turret...
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slyguy7447
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Re: Crushing?
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April 20, 2010, 03:59:11 am »
Quote from: nugnugx on April 20, 2010, 03:04:25 am
KT should be the only one that can crush jeeps , and nothing more.
KT being blocked by jeep lol spam is pretty silly tbh.
So you're saying the 45 ton Panther and the 56 ton Tiger I shouldn't be able to crush jeeps? Nor should the 30 ton Sherman, the 28 ton Cromwell or the 38 ton Churchill?
Either way it's a moot point, jeep crushing won't be implemented.
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Armfelt
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Re: Crushing?
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April 20, 2010, 04:12:33 am »
Quote from: Tymathee on April 19, 2010, 11:53:08 pm
because vehicles have no avoidance and you'd have them being ran over ALOT
Kettens got some type of avoidance, right? Is it possible to implement it for other light vehicles also? But at the same time I wonder, with all the light vehicle spam, will the battlefield turn into magnets that want to avoid eachother?
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nugnugx
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Re: Crushing?
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April 20, 2010, 04:32:06 am »
Quote from: slyguy7447 on April 20, 2010, 03:59:11 am
Quote from: nugnugx on April 20, 2010, 03:04:25 am
KT should be the only one that can crush jeeps , and nothing more.
KT being blocked by jeep lol spam is pretty silly tbh.
So you're saying the 45 ton Panther and the 56 ton Tiger I shouldn't be able to crush jeeps? Nor should the 30 ton Sherman, the 28 ton Cromwell or the 38 ton Churchill?
Either way it's a moot point, jeep crushing won't be implemented.
yes because COH is not reality if you haven't noticed by now , and the KT only gets realy gimped due to blocking because it's slow , has bad turret rottation.
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Armfelt
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Re: Crushing?
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April 20, 2010, 04:36:24 am »
Quote from: nugnugx on April 20, 2010, 04:32:06 am
Quote from: slyguy7447 on April 20, 2010, 03:59:11 am
Quote from: nugnugx on April 20, 2010, 03:04:25 am
KT should be the only one that can crush jeeps , and nothing more.
KT being blocked by jeep lol spam is pretty silly tbh.
So you're saying the 45 ton Panther and the 56 ton Tiger I shouldn't be able to crush jeeps? Nor should the 30 ton Sherman, the 28 ton Cromwell or the 38 ton Churchill?
Either way it's a moot point, jeep crushing won't be implemented.
yes because COH is not reality if you haven't noticed by now , and the KT only gets realy gimped due to blocking because it's slow , has bad turret rottation.
therefore we should implement flying saucers and mininukes!
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lionel23
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Re: Crushing?
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April 20, 2010, 05:33:30 am »
Kill this thread already!! Put it out of its misery quick, heh.
Anyway, moot point!
Actually I think it does take some skill to micro a dang jeep while controlling a force to stop a tank, it's harder than it looks. And the same thing can happen with bikes + Pershing situation, it's not just the KT. It's part of the game engine and that won't change.
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nugnugx
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Re: Crushing?
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April 20, 2010, 05:36:19 am »
Quote from: lionel23 on April 20, 2010, 05:33:30 am
Anyway, moot point!
Actually I think it does take some skill to
noob jeep blocker alert !!
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Illegal_Carrot
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Re: Crushing?
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April 20, 2010, 05:58:41 pm »
Anything with Heavy Crush should be able to roll over scouting units, but nothing more.
If your fucking Ketten wants to drive right into the treads of a Pershing, then I expect to see some fireworks!
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Masacree
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Re: Crushing?
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April 20, 2010, 06:00:16 pm »
Kettens get pushed by other vehicles.
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Illegal_Carrot
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Re: Crushing?
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April 20, 2010, 06:08:03 pm »
Quote from: Masacree on April 20, 2010, 06:00:16 pm
Kettens get pushed by other vehicles.
Yeah, what's up with that? When's the Ketten going to grow some balls and learn to stand up for itself?
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Pak88mm
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Re: Crushing?
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Reply #18 on:
April 20, 2010, 06:30:46 pm »
in reality crushing vechicles could technically also throw a track on the tank lol.
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Re: Crushing?
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Reply #19 on:
April 20, 2010, 08:43:04 pm »
Quote from: kitekaze on April 20, 2010, 12:49:37 am
To kill a super-tank by exploiting with pathing, it's not a true player skill.
Actually that is more "true player skill" than tossing a sticky and AP rounding the fucker for 3 minutes.
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