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kitekaze Offline
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« on: April 20, 2010, 01:30:17 am »

Maybe I'm just an axis-biased player or spammer, well, whatever.

Hotchkiss Command Tank is Panzer Elite Tank Hunter Tier2 Unlocked. This tank perform similar as an unupgraded hotchkiss, but have the 0.8 aura to buff.

So I'll bring up a comparison between Hotchkiss, Hotchkiss CT and British Cromwell CT.

AttributeHotchkissHotchkiss CTCromwell CT
Pop882
Manpower295310180
Fuel5012065
UnlockNoTier 2 Tank HunterNo
Upgrade50mm GunNoTank Commander, Creeping Smoke Barrage, Flank Speed
Can fireYesYesNo
Can crushNoNoYes
Aura Lv0NoReloadx0.8Sight+5 Reloadx0.8 Range+2.5 Firefly Reloadx0.8(totalx0.64)
Aura Lv2NoNoSight+5 Reloadx0.8 Range+2.5
Aura Range02530
Aura Effect AlliedNoYesNo

So basically, this Hotchkiss CT is a worst tank, its fuel cost higher than original hotchkiss and CCT plus together. And it neither has  super aura like a Cromwell CT nor powerful upgraded 50mm. And more importantly, HCT is a TIER 2 UNLOCK???

A suggestion would be remove the Hotchkiss CT cannon completely and make it like a Cromwell CT. Or change the tank into a combination of Cromwell CT and Hotchkiss.
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Demon767 Offline
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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2010, 01:41:04 am »

Interesting Dilema

you cant decrease cost unless you remove the Gun.

You cant buff its abilities as it will make all tanks and support tanks OP in conjuntion with this unit.

So unless you make it a total carbon copy of the Cromwell CT (No Gun just MG) but without the extra abilities. you cant change the HCT.

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kitekaze Offline
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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2010, 01:58:04 am »

To tell the truth, I have enough with hotchkiss, hotchkiss stuka, hotchkiss 50mm already. I want a real command tank unlocking, not another type of hot-kick  Undecided.
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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2010, 05:03:22 am »

Should have a long barreled PIV command tank for PE
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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2010, 05:30:11 am »

How the heck is a long barrel P4 a command tank?  Then we should make fireflys command tanks too... >< See what I mean?

Hotchkiss CT also gets a much better Vet 3 bonus than a basic hotchkiss, ever fight an army of those vetted?  Rapes infantry with rapid fire.
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2010, 05:36:51 am »

I might also want to add that the brit units are made with the buffs in mind, while the PE troops are actually already strong, an even higher buff would mean that you make them OP

(I am saying, that in vCoH the Brit stuff is meant to have left, capt and CCT buffs, while the other teams are NOT supposed to have them)

So in other words, the Brit tanks should be a little weaker in general to begin with.
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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2010, 05:39:56 am »

no, brits had no vet, so this would mean brits r OP now coz you can make them vet 6 (vet3+vet2lt)
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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2010, 05:44:06 am »

Should have a long barreled PIV command tank for PE

LOL !
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UnderHeavyFire Offline
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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2010, 05:48:27 am »

I used to field them before the pop change, but now at 8 pop it's just not worth it.  I NEED to have infantry out with my tanks/support, and I'm not prepared to sacrifice 8 pop for a command unit.
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NightRain Offline
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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2010, 06:16:41 am »

Should be a Command Panther.

Panther with a longer Radio mast on it and gives buffs. That'd be epic
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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2010, 07:00:10 am »

Yeah CTT does kinda suck. Back when I did use them they used up too much pop for my taste. Cant field the inf I needed to support.
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« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2010, 07:43:42 am »

make a command ketten Cheesy
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Armfelt Offline
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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2010, 07:50:53 am »

Let's create a scoutcar "Befehlsfahrzeug" with increased survivability, + same aura as HCT.

300 mp, 15 fuel, 3 pop. Limit 1

Would lose armour though, but cheaper than HCT, and on a new platform since it ain't either infantry nor tank.


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« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2010, 08:28:40 am »

Only possible problem I see with HCT is its 8 popcap, if you want to buff your infantry with TH T3 doctrine aura you need 8 pop unit around your infantry compared to the US officer of 2 pop. Other than that its a pretty good unit.
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« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2010, 09:40:19 am »

Just make it a Panther

Panther Command Tank.

Usually tank commanders had either a P4/Halftrack/Panther

In this case Panther would be nice for Panzer Elite...not another HT...or then P4 Command Tank
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« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2010, 10:47:14 am »

A scout car LT is a interesting idea.
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kitekaze Offline
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« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2010, 10:57:31 am »

A scout car LT is a interesting idea.

Scout Car that act like a lieutenant? Very interesting...

Also, there's a bug that the Hotchkiss CT aura doesn't appear. And it doesn't have the attach command like CCT does.
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« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2010, 12:51:16 pm »

i want catapult bergetiger.
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« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2010, 01:41:28 pm »

i want catapult bergetiger.

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« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2010, 05:41:17 am »

I think, for buffing infantry, an Infantry based unit like the US officer/LT is better compared to a vehicle or tank, like the scoutcar. PE TH T3 lets your HCT buff infantry aswell.

You want to use your pro infantry to rush ATG and Handheld AT inf, the units they counter well. Having a Scoutcar or HCT behind them will still get raped by those weapons/units, so you cant really use them properly. I'd rather have the Infantry unit (Officer/LT) than a Vehicle unit (scoutcar/HCT).
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