Home
Forum
Search
Login
Register
Account
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
Did you miss your
activation email?
November 25, 2024, 12:38:30 am
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
Resources
Leaderboards
Unit Price Lists
Map List
Launcher status:
Players in chat: 0
Battles in progress: 0
Battles waiting: 5
Download the mod from Steam
Join our Discord server
Recent posts
Please don’t open this th...
by
Olazaika1
[November 01, 2024, 12:46:37 pm]
Required age ratings for ...
by
Unkn0wn
[October 05, 2024, 07:29:20 am]
50 minutes cap victory
by
Olazaika1
[September 05, 2024, 01:54:13 pm]
Feedback
by
Olazaika1
[July 16, 2024, 11:30:34 pm]
Anyone here still alive?
by
Olazaika1
[June 22, 2024, 06:49:40 am]
very glad to be signing u...
by
Olazaika1
[March 08, 2024, 12:13:38 am]
EiR:R ACA (Art Credits Ar...
by
Olazaika1
[March 08, 2024, 12:12:54 am]
Hello, New guy in the mod
by
Olazaika1
[March 08, 2024, 12:09:37 am]
CoH 3 Old Guard
by
chefarzt
[December 30, 2023, 08:00:58 pm]
KT got buffs, Rug stop hi...
by
LittleJoe
[February 04, 2023, 11:46:41 am]
Awards
2007
Mod of the Year
Editor's Choice
2008
Most Innovative Multiplayer
Nominee
Want to help promote Europe In Ruins? It's as easy as clicking here once a day!
Why?
COH: Europe In Ruins
>
Forum
>
EIR Main Forums
>
Balance & Design
>
Hotchkiss Command Tank
Pages: [
1
]
2
Go Down
Print
Author
Topic: Hotchkiss Command Tank (Read 5899 times)
0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.
kitekaze
EIR Regular
Posts: 48
Hotchkiss Command Tank
«
on:
April 20, 2010, 01:30:17 am »
Maybe I'm just an axis-biased player or spammer, well, whatever.
Hotchkiss Command Tank is Panzer Elite Tank Hunter Tier2 Unlocked. This tank perform similar as an unupgraded hotchkiss, but have the 0.8 aura to buff.
So I'll bring up a comparison between Hotchkiss, Hotchkiss CT and British Cromwell CT.
Attribute
Hotchkiss
Hotchkiss CT
Cromwell CT
Pop
8
8
2
Manpower
295
310
180
Fuel
50
120
65
Unlock
No
Tier 2 Tank Hunter
No
Upgrade
50mm Gun
No
Tank Commander, Creeping Smoke Barrage, Flank Speed
Can fire
Yes
Yes
No
Can crush
No
No
Yes
Aura Lv0
No
Reloadx0.8
Sight+5 Reloadx0.8 Range+2.5 Firefly Reloadx0.8(totalx0.64)
Aura Lv2
No
No
Sight+5 Reloadx0.8 Range+2.5
Aura Range
0
25
30
Aura Effect Allied
No
Yes
No
So basically, this Hotchkiss CT is a worst tank, its fuel cost higher than original hotchkiss and CCT plus together. And it neither has super aura like a Cromwell CT nor powerful upgraded 50mm. And more importantly, HCT is a TIER 2 UNLOCK???
A suggestion would be remove the Hotchkiss CT cannon completely and make it like a Cromwell CT. Or change the tank into a combination of Cromwell CT and Hotchkiss.
«
Last Edit: April 20, 2010, 01:49:00 am by kitekaze
»
Logged
Demon767
Warmap Betatester
EIR Veteran
Posts: 6190
Re: Hotchkiss Command Tank
«
Reply #1 on:
April 20, 2010, 01:41:04 am »
Interesting Dilema
you cant decrease cost unless you remove the Gun.
You cant buff its abilities as it will make all tanks and support tanks OP in conjuntion with this unit.
So unless you make it a total carbon copy of the Cromwell CT (No Gun just MG) but without the extra abilities. you cant change the HCT.
Logged
Generalleutnant of The Reichs Wolves
Nevergetsputonlistguy767
kitekaze
EIR Regular
Posts: 48
Re: Hotchkiss Command Tank
«
Reply #2 on:
April 20, 2010, 01:58:04 am »
To tell the truth, I have enough with hotchkiss, hotchkiss stuka, hotchkiss 50mm already. I want a real command tank unlocking, not another type of hot-kick
.
Logged
rifle87654
EIR Veteran
Posts: 1107
Re: Hotchkiss Command Tank
«
Reply #3 on:
April 20, 2010, 05:03:22 am »
Should have a long barreled PIV command tank for PE
Logged
Quote from: TheIcelandicManiac on July 13, 2011, 09:33:42 am
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahah
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahah
Does he have a problem?
Anyway he's hilarious.
lionel23
Donator
Posts: 1854
Re: Hotchkiss Command Tank
«
Reply #4 on:
April 20, 2010, 05:30:11 am »
How the heck is a long barrel P4 a command tank? Then we should make fireflys command tanks too... >< See what I mean?
Hotchkiss CT also gets a much better Vet 3 bonus than a basic hotchkiss, ever fight an army of those vetted? Rapes infantry with rapid fire.
Logged
Congratulations, dear sir...I must say, never before have I seen such precise gunnery displayed. - CrazyWR (on Leaderboard Howitzers)
LCII^Bun-Bun
Donator
Posts: 159
Re: Hotchkiss Command Tank
«
Reply #5 on:
April 20, 2010, 05:36:51 am »
I might also want to add that the brit units are made with the buffs in mind, while the PE troops are actually already strong, an even higher buff would mean that you make them OP
(I am saying, that in vCoH the Brit stuff is meant to have left, capt and CCT buffs, while the other teams are NOT supposed to have them)
So in other words, the Brit tanks should be a little weaker in general to begin with.
Logged
Might not be MY Doctirine, but it's so damn close I'll TAKE IT!
LeoPhone
Honoured Member
Posts: 0
Re: Hotchkiss Command Tank
«
Reply #6 on:
April 20, 2010, 05:39:56 am »
no, brits had no vet, so this would mean brits r OP now coz you can make them vet 6 (vet3+vet2lt)
Logged
nugnugx
Donator
Posts: 4051
Re: Hotchkiss Command Tank
«
Reply #7 on:
April 20, 2010, 05:44:06 am »
Quote from: rifle87654 on April 20, 2010, 05:03:22 am
Should have a long barreled PIV command tank for PE
LOL !
Logged
UnderHeavyFire
EIR Veteran
Posts: 306
Re: Hotchkiss Command Tank
«
Reply #8 on:
April 20, 2010, 05:48:27 am »
I used to field them before the pop change, but now at 8 pop it's just not worth it. I NEED to have infantry out with my tanks/support, and I'm not prepared to sacrifice 8 pop for a command unit.
Logged
NightRain
EIR Veteran
Posts: 3908
Re: Hotchkiss Command Tank
«
Reply #9 on:
April 20, 2010, 06:16:41 am »
Should be a Command Panther.
Panther with a longer Radio mast on it and gives buffs. That'd be epic
Logged
Quote from: Unkn0wn on June 05, 2011, 04:01:40 am
Because a forum post should be like a woman's skirt. Long enough to cover the subject material, but short enough to keep things interesting.
DarkSoldierX
EIR Veteran
Posts: 3015
Re: Hotchkiss Command Tank
«
Reply #10 on:
April 20, 2010, 07:00:10 am »
Yeah CTT does kinda suck. Back when I did use them they used up too much pop for my taste. Cant field the inf I needed to support.
Logged
Quote from: nugnugx on June 03, 2011, 11:42:22 am
two words
atgs and fireflies
Looks who's butthurt
Quote from: BigDick on January 08, 2012, 06:47:44 am
*waiting* 4 DarkSoldierNoobiX pops up to prove how much shit the T17 is penetrating KTs back and Jagd front and how much better the ac/puma is penetrating m10 rear
Tymathee
Donator
Posts: 9741
Re: Hotchkiss Command Tank
«
Reply #11 on:
April 20, 2010, 07:43:42 am »
make a command ketten
Logged
Quote from: nikomas on October 04, 2012, 09:26:33 pm
"I want proof!"
"I have proof!"
"Whatever, I'm still right"
Dafuq man, don't ask for proof if you'll refuse it if it's not in your favor, logic fallacy for the bloody win.
Armfelt
EIR Veteran
Posts: 453
Re: Hotchkiss Command Tank
«
Reply #12 on:
April 20, 2010, 07:50:53 am »
Let's create a scoutcar "Befehlsfahrzeug" with increased survivability, + same aura as HCT.
300 mp, 15 fuel, 3 pop. Limit 1
Would lose armour though, but cheaper than HCT, and on a new platform since it ain't either infantry nor tank.
«
Last Edit: April 20, 2010, 08:09:08 am by Armfelt
»
Logged
"Well opinions are like assholes, everybody has one."
skaffa
Honoured Member
Posts: 3130
The very best player of one of the four factions.
Re: Hotchkiss Command Tank
«
Reply #13 on:
April 20, 2010, 08:28:40 am »
Only possible problem I see with HCT is its 8 popcap, if you want to buff your infantry with TH T3 doctrine aura you need 8 pop unit around your infantry compared to the US officer of 2 pop. Other than that its a pretty good unit.
Logged
Quote from: deadbolt
bad luck skaffa> creates best and most played eir maps
> hated for creating best and most played eir maps
Quote from: Tachibana
47k new all time record?
Quote from: deadbolt
Don't knock it til uve tried it bitchface, this isn't anything like salads version. Besides u said a semois conversion would never work, now look that's the most played map, ohgodwhy.jpg r u map lead
NightRain
EIR Veteran
Posts: 3908
Re: Hotchkiss Command Tank
«
Reply #14 on:
April 20, 2010, 09:40:19 am »
Just make it a Panther
Panther Command Tank.
Usually tank commanders had either a P4/Halftrack/Panther
In this case Panther would be nice for Panzer Elite...not another HT...or then P4 Command Tank
Logged
Smokaz
Honoured Member
Posts: 11418
Re: Hotchkiss Command Tank
«
Reply #15 on:
April 20, 2010, 10:47:14 am »
A scout car LT is a interesting idea.
Logged
SlippedHerTheBigOne: big penis puma
SlippedHerTheBigOne: and i have no repairkits
SlippedHerTheBigOne: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
kitekaze
EIR Regular
Posts: 48
Re: Hotchkiss Command Tank
«
Reply #16 on:
April 20, 2010, 10:57:31 am »
Quote from: Smokaz on April 20, 2010, 10:47:14 am
A scout car LT is a interesting idea.
Scout Car that act like a lieutenant? Very interesting...
Also, there's a bug that the Hotchkiss CT aura doesn't appear. And it doesn't have the attach command like CCT does.
«
Last Edit: April 20, 2010, 10:59:53 am by kitekaze
»
Logged
LeoPhone
Honoured Member
Posts: 0
Re: Hotchkiss Command Tank
«
Reply #17 on:
April 20, 2010, 12:51:16 pm »
i want catapult bergetiger.
Logged
SX23
EIR Veteran
Posts: 356
Re: Hotchkiss Command Tank
«
Reply #18 on:
April 20, 2010, 01:41:28 pm »
Quote from: LeoPhone on April 20, 2010, 12:51:16 pm
i want catapult bergetiger.
Me too !!!
Logged
With Courage shall we Rise,
With Might shall we Fight,
With Glory shall we Stand,
With Honor shall we Falter,
For the Fatherland shall we Prevail.
skaffa
Honoured Member
Posts: 3130
The very best player of one of the four factions.
Re: Hotchkiss Command Tank
«
Reply #19 on:
April 21, 2010, 05:41:17 am »
I think, for buffing infantry, an Infantry based unit like the US officer/LT is better compared to a vehicle or tank, like the scoutcar. PE TH T3 lets your HCT buff infantry aswell.
You want to use your pro infantry to rush ATG and Handheld AT inf, the units they counter well. Having a Scoutcar or HCT behind them will still get raped by those weapons/units, so you cant really use them properly. I'd rather have the Infantry unit (Officer/LT) than a Vehicle unit (scoutcar/HCT).
Logged
Pages: [
1
]
2
Go Up
Print
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
News & Introductions
-----------------------------
=> Updates & Announcements
=> EIR Boot Camp
===> In Other Languages
=====> In Chinese
=====> In German
=====> In Spanish
=====> In Polish
=====> In French
=====> In Norwegian
=> New Players
-----------------------------
EIR Main Forums
-----------------------------
=> General Discussion
=> Tactics & Strategy
=> Balance & Design
=> Broadcasts & Replays
=> Projects & Mapping
=> Technical Support
===> Bug Reporting
-----------------------------
General Forums
-----------------------------
=> General Discussion
=> Other Games
TinyPortal v1.0 beta 4 ©
Bloc
Loading...