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Poll
Question: Do you think it is fine the way it is?
Keep it the same as now
Revert the change only for PE
Revert the change for every faction
Lower the fuel more
Other: Please explain

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SX23 Offline
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« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2010, 01:45:47 pm »

Weird idea, but maybye letting PE have support weapons would lower their dependance on fuel?
Ex: Mg42, mortar, maybye paks?
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« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2010, 01:53:06 pm »

dont change it u ***** spammers
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CrazyWR Offline
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« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2010, 05:09:17 pm »

I don't think PE needs changed.  I just think if you run a Hummel company or a Jagd company it an be very hard to run a balanced company as PE because they so severely limit your options after they are in.  Since unlike the other 3 factions they don't have but 3 options without fuel, I really believe the fuel nerf is a serious hit to PE and should be reverted back for them. 

PE infantry is already the weakest in the game, lowering the fuel has caused increased usage of a poor unit, and 50mm spam because Marders cost went up for no reason and is very large in a smaller pool.  No longer do you see vampire HT's, muni hts w/ goliaths/mines(only saturation muni hts, or muni hts from the middle t4 from TH).  The fuel for these units which help round out a company and expand it a bit is not there because you have to fill basic roles in your company before buying extras, and while other factions have the resources for these things, the lack of fuel for PE severely hampers its ability to build robust companies without spamming the most cost-effective possible units, which leads to annoying gameplay and unnecessary nerfs due to overusage, when the problem lies instead with pool values.  It also leads to many many very similar PE companies, which is boring.  All 3 other factions have many different builds, but PE is forced into a certain vanilla type of build thru their reliance on fuel and the restriction placed on fuel. 


Finally, to anyone who has the ability to find out, can someone please post the number of PE companies using lvl 3 manpower/muni/fuel unlocks?  I'd guess there is a serious leaning towards lvl3 fuel, but I could be wrong and there could be plenty of users using the other 2.
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« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2010, 07:12:48 pm »

seems to me... it has everything to do with heavies until you explain your motive behind the poll. Sure you can get everyone to vote based on ambiguous information and blanket rhetoric (US elections anyone?), but if no one knows exactly what aspect of EIRR a fuel crunch would exacerbate the most, it's not clear what your grievance with the current system is. (though it apparently has to do with PE grief)

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Woa, I'd say you won the best smurfer award.
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CrazyWR Offline
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« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2010, 02:56:38 am »

Keith disagrees
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Wolster Offline
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« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2010, 03:54:48 am »

I can no longer run my duel Tiger & a Panther on the side company, so i vote put it back how it was.

As a Blitz player most of the doctine choices i make only effect 2 units on the feild now which is abit naff, my double Tigers, I am certain my battalion would perform better with a P4 spam under the current fuel cap, but I hate being push around by devs into effective builds.

As it stands I wont be putting 3 advatages into fuel anymore to be wasted on stugs/light armour, I may as well stock up on munitions & manpower & join the inf spammers & actually be able to equip my (ridiculusly cost ineffective Stormies- i mean seriously what player ever buys that 95 muni 2nd Stig upgrade).
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« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2010, 04:16:33 am »

seems to me... it has everything to do with heavies until you explain your motive behind the poll. Sure you can get everyone to vote based on ambiguous information and blanket rhetoric (US elections anyone?), but if no one knows exactly what aspect of EIRR a fuel crunch would exacerbate the most, it's not clear what your grievance with the current system is. (though it apparently has to do with PE grief)

Hello,

1337noob2, Piotrskivich, Pattonsworst, vertigoanduminas, Bilbofrodo, GarnierMcGarvey, GarnierMcGarveyAxis, Guderian88mm, Guderian6pndr, Guderian20mm, brooke1944, GarnierMcG1, VERTIGGO2, GarnierMcG2, VERTIGGO3, Montigieu, 1337noob, VERTIGGO4, VERTIGGO5, VERTIGGO11, EIRRTEST, breakdown77, eirrtest2

Woa, I'd say you won the best smurfer award.

I don't think he's ever even posted on any of those accounts, do you do that just to be an enormous ass or what?
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« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2010, 04:23:18 am »

No Mal, he posts on 3 of those accounts, you just would have never guessed that they are ALL the same person. He has so many identities it almost seems like hes running from the FBI or something.

Anyway let's get back ontopic.
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Two Offline
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« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2010, 04:31:06 am »

Fuck all is wrong with fuel, repair kits are the problem.
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« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2010, 05:06:28 am »

No Mal, he posts on 3 of those accounts, you just would have never guessed that they are ALL the same person. He has so many identities it almost seems like hes running from the FBI or something.

Anyway let's get back ontopic.

Exactly, I for one thought vertiggo was some horribly biased axis noob with no agenda whatsoever in EiR. Turns out he's Garnier McG? AND Piotskrvich? AND Guderian88mm? Seriously? 4 people, who I considered completely unconnected, all 1 person? Jeez.
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« Reply #30 on: April 25, 2010, 06:20:34 am »

garnierMCG is a good vcoh player. vertiggo is a noob. they cannot be the same person
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EliteGren Offline
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« Reply #31 on: April 25, 2010, 06:41:47 am »

They are, there is no doubt. I couldn't believe it either. Anyway it will be dealt with.
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« Reply #32 on: April 25, 2010, 06:43:56 am »

 Shocked Shocked Shocked
what makes you sure about it? -,-
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« Reply #33 on: April 25, 2010, 06:54:57 am »

Could also be his brother or any other family member for that matter...
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Two Offline
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« Reply #34 on: April 25, 2010, 07:09:21 am »

maybe he has multiple personality disorder tbh
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« Reply #35 on: April 25, 2010, 07:14:51 am »

maybe he has multiple personality disorder tbh

Like MrTwo and JeckylKeeps ?
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« Reply #36 on: April 25, 2010, 09:17:49 am »

I can no longer run my duel Tiger & a Panther on the side company, so i vote put it back how it was.

As a Blitz player most of the doctine choices i make only effect 2 units on the feild now which is abit naff, my double Tigers, I am certain my battalion would perform better with a P4 spam under the current fuel cap, but I hate being push around by devs into effective builds.

As it stands I wont be putting 3 advatages into fuel anymore to be wasted on stugs/light armour, I may as well stock up on munitions & manpower & join the inf spammers & actually be able to equip my (ridiculusly cost ineffective Stormies- i mean seriously what player ever buys that 95 muni 2nd Stig upgrade).

This makes me LOL. The whole point of the fuel nerf was to limit the vehicle & Tank spam.
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Killer344 Offline
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« Reply #37 on: April 25, 2010, 10:09:56 am »

garnierMCG is a good vcoh player. vertiggo is a noob. they cannot be the same person

Piotrskivich = Guderian88mm, 100% sure, there is no doubt about it, there are more than IP matches connecting them.

GarnierMcGarvey =  VERTIGGO, same 100% sure, we have more than IP matches connecting them.

But, all of them being the same person I'd say 99%.... I need to find more stuff connecting them, no worries, I'll eventually find it. Move on.
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VERTIGGO Offline
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« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2010, 09:45:31 am »

garnierMCG is a good vcoh player. vertiggo is a noob. they cannot be the same person

Piotrskivich = Guderian88mm, 100% sure, there is no doubt about it, there are more than IP matches connecting them.

GarnierMcGarvey =  VERTIGGO, same 100% sure, we have more than IP matches connecting them.

But, all of them being the same person I'd say 99%.... I need to find more stuff connecting them, no worries, I'll eventually find it. Move on.

I can't believe you guys are getting so anxious about this! By the way, what the heck does "dealt with" mean?

For the record, I have three brothers, and we share the cable. Having multiple forum accounts each is a necessity for running multiple companies. Would you rather everyone played only on one level 9 company and never tried new factions? We'd have 1000 times the fanboyism we do.

Aloha, I don't remember playing much with you, but thanks for blindly labeling me a noob. That's rich. I've played EIR off and on since 2007 or so.

You are right about my brother (garnier) though, he made Schijndel and Alencon (automatch fav) and was very good.
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« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2010, 10:42:11 am »

LOL. Yes, I had my doubts about it, I was going to PM you but I didn't have time.

Can you tell us which accounts do they use? Because there are 4 accounts...
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