Fuel change poll

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[CrazyWR]

I don't think PE needs changed.  I just think if you run a Hummel company or a Jagd company it an be very hard to run a balanced company as PE because they so severely limit your options after they are in.  Since unlike the other 3 factions they don't have but 3 options without fuel, I really believe the fuel nerf is a serious hit to PE and should be reverted back for them. 

PE infantry is already the weakest in the game, lowering the fuel has caused increased usage of a poor unit, and 50mm spam because Marders cost went up for no reason and is very large in a smaller pool.  No longer do you see vampire HT's, muni hts w/ goliaths/mines(only saturation muni hts, or muni hts from the middle t4 from TH).  The fuel for these units which help round out a company and expand it a bit is not there because you have to fill basic roles in your company before buying extras, and while other factions have the resources for these things, the lack of fuel for PE severely hampers its ability to build robust companies without spamming the most cost-effective possible units, which leads to annoying gameplay and unnecessary nerfs due to overusage, when the problem lies instead with pool values.  It also leads to many many very similar PE companies, which is boring.  All 3 other factions have many different builds, but PE is forced into a certain vanilla type of build thru their reliance on fuel and the restriction placed on fuel. 


Finally, to anyone who has the ability to find out, can someone please post the number of PE companies using lvl 3 manpower/muni/fuel unlocks?  I'd guess there is a serious leaning towards lvl3 fuel, but I could be wrong and there could be plenty of users using the other 2.

bump? 

[Mysthalin]

I don't think PE needs changed.  I just think if you run a Hummel company or a Jagd company it an be very hard to run a balanced company as PE because they so severely limit your options after they are in.  Since unlike the other 3 factions they don't have but 3 options without fuel, I really believe the fuel nerf is a serious hit to PE and should be reverted back for them. 

PE infantry is already the weakest in the game, lowering the fuel has caused increased usage of a poor unit, and 50mm spam because Marders cost went up for no reason and is very large in a smaller pool.  No longer do you see vampire HT's, muni hts w/ goliaths/mines(only saturation muni hts, or muni hts from the middle t4 from TH).  The fuel for these units which help round out a company and expand it a bit is not there because you have to fill basic roles in your company before buying extras, and while other factions have the resources for these things, the lack of fuel for PE severely hampers its ability to build robust companies without spamming the most cost-effective possible units, which leads to annoying gameplay and unnecessary nerfs due to overusage, when the problem lies instead with pool values.  It also leads to many many very similar PE companies, which is boring.  All 3 other factions have many different builds, but PE is forced into a certain vanilla type of build thru their reliance on fuel and the restriction placed on fuel. 


Finally, to anyone who has the ability to find out, can someone please post the number of PE companies using lvl 3 manpower/muni/fuel unlocks?  I'd guess there is a serious leaning towards lvl3 fuel, but I could be wrong and there could be plenty of users using the other 2.

bump? 

Nobody agrees with you, I guess.

Personally, I just outright think your whole rant is laughable - you spend 390 FU for a hummel, you still have 1000 (considering 2 fuel advantages) for marders, IHTs and 50mm ATHTs.

In the case you also buy 3 ISTs(overkill fuel investment on AI much?), you can still have 385 FU(considering 2 FU advantages) for which you can buy 9 50mm ATHTs. Hardly something you actually need - so perhaps take 6 50mm ATHTs and for the left over 145 FU buy a vampire or muni HT?

[shockcoil]

I want more fuel but thats just me. Then again I also want a revert back to 10k manpower so maybe Im in the minority here. I dunno bigger companies and longer games/more company options just seems more fun to me

[brn4meplz]

Would mean more tigers for me. I'm always wanting more tigers.

[VERTIGGO]

LOL. Yes, I had my doubts about it, I was going to PM you but I didn't have time.

Can you tell us which accounts do they use? Because there are 4 accounts...

Which accounts? I'm not sure what you mean. I can't speak for all of them, but probably the majority of them are mine. I intended to switch them all over to VERTIGGO and a number, but there is a limit to how many times you can. Anyway, between the four of us one should expect up to 48 accounts, since you have to make a new forum login for every company you build (Relic name can be the same), but on top of that, I've added random ones like eirrtest to try out different things.

Either way, I'm still not sure why people are complaining about it. If I had been smurfing, I can see how it's quite a laugh, but since I use VERTIGGO in the launcher, no one has been the victim of smurfing.

[Killer344]

Nobody complained about it, Piotrskivich just sent me a PM that cleared up everything.

[GarnierMcGarvey]

I want to see the proof that vertigo and I are 100% the same person.   

[VERTIGGO]

Haha good one. What are you doing away from 1863?

[brn4meplz]

In internet terms, lots of things can make you the 'same person'.