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Author Topic: M18 cloaking  (Read 17490 times)
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basicallysceptical Offline
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« on: May 24, 2010, 03:34:24 pm »

cloaking , ok why not.. nice gimmick.. but cloaking AFTER shooting a panther in sight and THEN cloaking to shoot "suprisingly" again.. come on..

there is no discussion wether we got paks and stormies or not.. paks cannot cloak again after shooting, especially not within a certain range. so before flaming, pls keep in mind i dont want the cloaking removed..
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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2010, 03:35:46 pm »

can you please post the replay, this sounds like a very extreme occurence
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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2010, 03:35:50 pm »

my hellcat had destroyed engine and main gun and cloaked becuase it was a fair distance from ur troops and wasnt the priority target of your panther, you're exaggerating what happened. its a lil less bs than storms cloakin right infront of mgs etc.
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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2010, 03:35:56 pm »

Fallschrimjaeagers cloak DURING combat too, its just relic's buggy cloaking system, really can't change M18 cloaking without changing every other unit that cloaks too so.. no point in discussing this.
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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2010, 03:36:25 pm »

replay or didnt happen, sadly...
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2010, 03:50:08 pm »

unfortunatly since windows 7 i cannot find the "my games" folder anymore.. so if someone knows where to find the savegames, i`d be glad to post it, somehow.. thx

tomorrow of course.. getting late here Wink
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Tymathee Offline
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2010, 03:54:03 pm »

Yeah ,basically the cloaking system sucks. If its not the main target, it'll cloak but it has to be targeted.
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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2010, 04:13:19 pm »

How 'bout we remove that stupid cloak (heck, I'd love to get rid of all cloaks except for the snipers' one, buts... yah I get it) and in trade we give it the speed it should have and also some reasonable gun (so it can actually penetrate as now it relies basically on that cloak shot)... just sayin' cuz it was actually even better tank than M10 but I guess ya'll know that - price adjustments could take place as well... Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2010, 05:07:25 pm »

M18 cloak actually works extremely well.  Cloak after firing has never worked with it.
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Jinker Offline
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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2010, 05:21:38 pm »

What is the damage bonus the m18 gets from cloak? It seems a little over the top atm.
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gamesguy2 Offline
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« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2010, 05:28:32 pm »

50% damage bonus.

M18 isn't that good, I prefer M10s, reliable penetration is much more useful than one cloaked shot and then bouncing 20 times.  Plus M18s are much slower than M10s so it's hard to flank or run away.
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« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2010, 06:40:16 pm »

m18s have insane range at vet 3 i feel.
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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2010, 07:17:52 pm »

They don't get any range bonus, they have identical range to M10s, and I have to say I'm leaning more towards reliable penetration on the M10 and speed over the M18, which both are just as fragile as the other but the hellcat - while it does have awesome cloak - can take a very long time to pull out of cloak and start accelerating to get away if a mass armor rush pushes on top of it (lost a vet 2 hellcat that way).  Least with M10s I can sacrifice to take out an infinitely more expensive axis heavy out.
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« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2010, 07:33:03 pm »

people also seem to forget they have 46 range. all other tanks have 35.
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« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2010, 07:53:41 pm »

people also seem to forget they have 46 range. all other tanks have 35.


Standard tank range is 40.
KT has 45
Hetzer with scope is 50
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« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2010, 08:08:38 pm »

people also seem to forget they have 46 range. all other tanks have 35.


Standard tank range is 40.
KT has 45
Hetzer with scope is 50

Oops, I meant 46 sight.
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« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2010, 08:13:26 pm »

Ya that's the main advantage of the M18, being able to kite P4s all day.  M18 isn't so good vs panthers and KT and such.

M10s with observation is much superior IMO, but that requires a T3 unlock and a munitions cost.
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« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2010, 11:35:18 pm »

Ya that's the main advantage of the M18, being able to kite P4s all day.  M18 isn't so good vs panthers and KT and such.

M10s with observation is much superior IMO, but that requires a T3 unlock and a munitions cost.

agreed. I tend to kite with m-10's anyway. Jeep + m-10 = dead p4/stug
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« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2010, 12:24:19 am »

even with bonus cloak damage panther usually gets away ok if full health or 2/3...

i have seen this cloak thing on a 3v3
only seen it happen once.

wat about uncloaking with inf i hear u have to be right on top of it even if it is on an open road LOL!
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« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2010, 12:27:07 am »

You can't cloak it on red cover...
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