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[EliteGren]

Blitzkrieg?

[Rocksitter]

 i brought up a similar idea a few months ago about upgrades for elite infantry like Storm Troopers  with the ability to gain a better armor at the cost of say stealth and multiple weapons choices .

 Kind of a build your unit the way you need them type thing ....
 

[Tymathee]

Talk about bullshit.

Cloak is not what you call survivability. One fuck up and you lose a massive amount of munitions, one BAR squad or any type of elite infantry comes by when it's uncloaked and it's also gone. Storms have an average armor class, and no get-out-of-jail cards like rangers.

If you get your storms ran into by a bar squad, you're using them wrong. you can see the rifle long b4 it sees you. I see a lot of people try to cloak and get away and get caught up by inafntry cuz they're trying to stealth while in combat and lol get out of jail cards like rangers right, they have elite armor and they still get raped by everything, rangers are so easy to lose, their only "get out of jail card" is fire up and even then, if u dont have anywhere to fire up to where there's a change to protect those rangers, you're basically crippling htem.

[Jodomar]

Heavy support should give the guy on the pack a panzerfaust or even better a panzershreck. One mp44 isn't going to do that much but an extra at weapon would go a long way because it would make circle straffing a pack dangerous ordeal.

[deadbolt]

Heavy support should give the guy on the pack a panzerfaust or even better a panzershreck. One mp44 isn't going to do that much but an extra at weapon would go a long way because it would make circle straffing a pack dangerous ordeal.

thats quite a good idea, but i wouldnt make the shreck droppable.

[BigDick]

imho the third heavy support guy of pak38 should get a klappflak

[gamesguy2]

Why the hell would anyone field mp44 grens over four man KCH?

[EliteGren]

More spammable and don't get raped so hard by flamers.

[deadbolt]

he means on the support weapons..........................

[gamesguy2]

More spammable and don't get raped so hard by flamers.

Hardly, there is no way to justify making grens with four mp44s cheaper than assault grens, which would put their cost very close to that of 4 man KCH.

And KCH have the equivelent of 72 hp/man against flamers, grens have 80.  Since every other weapon in the game is the same or weaker against heroic armor, KCH is the far better option unless you playing on volcano world.

Plus KCH take 50% less suppression.

[LeoPhone]

the noobs think 2 mp44s would only cost 65 munitions.

guess what? 2 mp44s on storms cost you 175 munitions (complete BS if u ask me, they get raped by everything, dont get near the DPS of thompsons and when u try to attack some BARs at point blank range they will supress you before you've killed them. even if you kill the bars in the end, half of your storms are dead, and you're still supressed so say hello to t17/stag/m8 whatever)

[deadbolt]

he means on the support weapons..........................

[EliteGren]

I dunno. I'd rather spam MP44 Grens than I'd spam KCH.

[gamesguy2]

the noobs think 2 mp44s would only cost 65 munitions.

guess what? 2 mp44s on storms cost you 175 munitions (complete BS if u ask me, they get raped by everything, dont get near the DPS of thompsons and when u try to attack some BARs at point blank range they will supress you before you've killed them. even if you kill the bars in the end, half of your storms are dead, and you're still supressed so say hello to t17/stag/m8 whatever)

It cost 175 mun for four mp44s, not two.

I dunno. I'd rather spam MP44 Grens than I'd spam KCH.

Why though?  The KCH barely cost more and are way better.

Anyways, it would be far too much overlap. 

[CafeMilani]

flamethrowers on grens? (terror grens) might be a cool t3.

[CafeMilani]

I dunno. I'd rather spam MP44 Grens than I'd spam KCH.

Why though?  The KCH barely cost more and are way better.

pool cost..

[deadbolt]

wtf am i invisible, or should i through in a couple of f u's to get peoples attention.

[LeoPhone]

the noobs think 2 mp44s would only cost 65 munitions.

guess what? 2 mp44s on storms cost you 175 munitions (complete BS if u ask me, they get raped by everything, dont get near the DPS of thompsons and when u try to attack some BARs at point blank range they will supress you before you've killed them. even if you kill the bars in the end, half of your storms are dead, and you're still supressed so say hello to t17/stag/m8 whatever)

It cost 175 mun for four mp44s, not two.

thats not true.

i know storms start with 1 mp44 for free, and it shows +1mp44, 95 mu and +1mp44, 80 mu.

so u pay 175 for 2 mp44s.

[EliteGren]

Storms never had a free MP44. That's a K98 Leader Rifle.

[gamesguy2]

the noobs think 2 mp44s would only cost 65 munitions.

guess what? 2 mp44s on storms cost you 175 munitions (complete BS if u ask me, they get raped by everything, dont get near the DPS of thompsons and when u try to attack some BARs at point blank range they will supress you before you've killed them. even if you kill the bars in the end, half of your storms are dead, and you're still supressed so say hello to t17/stag/m8 whatever)

It cost 175 mun for four mp44s, not two.

thats not true.

i know storms start with 1 mp44 for free, and it shows +1mp44, 95 mu and +1mp44, 80 mu.

so u pay 175 for 2 mp44s.

Storms don't start with an MP44, it's just a K98 with mp44 skin.

Also the upgrade gives 2 mp44s/each.  With both you get 4.