Jodomar
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« on: June 09, 2010, 01:14:54 pm » |
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I have played two games against mysthalin and those m10's are stupid. They just have way to many buffs on them. With 25% more health getting hit with a pack doesn't really even do crap to them. Plus the speed buffs which they can just quickly move out of the firing range of your pack and it also turns them into gaint lawn mowers. Plus if you go double tier 3 you get the pop buff so you can feild 5 at the same time or like mysth does 2 in the opening call in with 2 squads of bar rifles. Then they also give rifles the accuracy bonus i believe which stacks. Then the rifles give the m10 bonuses. It just makes for very unbalanced and un-fun game play. Please do something about the stupid amount of buffs that you can stack on the m10's.
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2010, 01:52:35 pm » |
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The biggest problem with my M10s is that they have Tank Command - which is utterly SILLY on a tank that costs just 10 popcap as a base. I mean, I get Tank Command and I suddenly become just 7 popcap with my M10s. Stack this with Armour plating to get 500 health and become faster : and you have the best crushing platform the world has ever seen.
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2010, 01:58:08 pm » |
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so why do you (as a balance advidor?) abuse it instead of report it? (if you havent already)
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2010, 02:00:18 pm » |
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i reported an inbalance and some fag waffle boy took my units and the 6 profile reward points i spent it on and never gave them back ffs, what a waste.
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2010, 02:02:09 pm » |
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2010, 02:08:17 pm » |
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so why do you (as a balance advidor?) abuse it instead of report it? (if you havent already)
I've reported it ages ago? In fact : I had already shared my views with other members of it being OP before the launcher update, just never made an official post about it. |
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2010, 02:08:41 pm » |
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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2010, 02:09:14 pm » |
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lol myst is a balance adviser?
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2010, 02:10:00 pm » |
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u forgot the also get like 60 sight?
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2010, 02:11:00 pm » |
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u forgot the also get like 60 sight?
46 sight, but that's true as well. @Masacree - uhh, yes, your point being helpful to the discussion exactly how? |
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Tymathee
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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2010, 02:30:44 pm » |
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i still say take away human crush period, make eirr more tactical.
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2010, 02:31:57 pm » |
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i still say take away human crush period, make eirr more tactical.
There won't be any tactical thinking involved in riflemen rushing at tanks to clog them the fuck up from ever moving again. |
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Sharpshooter824
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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2010, 02:35:51 pm » |
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The thing with m10s is, nerf their speed and they become worthless, remove human crush and like mysthalin said, they get clogged up, its an extremely hard unit to balance in EIRR
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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2010, 02:37:48 pm » |
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ey lads
it is op only when tons of armour buffs are included- otherwise iti s a normal toy
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2010, 02:50:16 pm » |
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The thing with m10s is, nerf their speed and they become worthless, remove human crush and like mysthalin said, they get clogged up, its an extremely hard unit to balance in EIRR
m10 is OK, but the armour doctrine buffs make it really tough, |
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2010, 02:51:11 pm » |
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then it becomes overbuffed. fail suggestion. (no this is not a personal attack  ) |
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« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2010, 03:09:06 pm » |
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When you can use 9-10 super m10's to counter most of the opponents stuff, and the still have manpower to throw dozens upon dozens of riflemen with bar's out its brutal.
I don't think any unit should get to super-unit status.
I had a pak gun rear shot one of those M10's and only do 1/5th or so damage.
When there are five of them.. you cant counter it.
You could make M10's also take up support pool, instead of armor pool. Let them compete with At guns like a PE company does.
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« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2010, 03:19:32 pm » |
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i think the problem with the m-10, much like with the kangaroo is the added crush. So, take away human crush from the m-10, the stug too. I find it funny that myst spams two of the most OP tanks in terms of crushing infantry. After that, i think we'll be fine. Human crush should still be in but just take it awa from those two tanks you shouldnt be able to call in a tank destroyer and use it as a dual purpose tank against infantry and vehicles by running infantry over.
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« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2010, 03:21:06 pm » |
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use bikes to block? not refusing the possiblity of there being a issue here
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« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2010, 03:24:14 pm » |
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The issue of the m10 receiving far too many buffs has been in the process of being discussed in the Balance Advisor forum for the past week or so.
Without getting into specifics, I'm pretty sure the discussion there will lead to some much needed changes. And those of you questioning Mysthalin, he started the thread in question (noting how m10s get way too many buffs) so feel rest assured on that issue.
It's just another instance of the remnants of the previous looney tunes doctrines that are still being weeded out of the mod.
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