LeoPhone
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« on: June 10, 2010, 05:50:43 pm » |
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180 mp
30 mu
65 fu
for another 30 mu you get a repair kit.
thats an uber cheap 636HP tank ready to crush any infantry.
if u make one schrecksquad retreat you have basically all the cost back already.
people were compaining about tanks with crush.
well, this is the most retarded one. But simply removing flank speed (thats only used for crushing inf anyway) would fix the most.
edit: also just 2 pop and 2 POOL value
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Tymathee
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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2010, 05:54:58 pm » |
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i use it more to get away and chase down or go around tanks than crush infantry.
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| vivie5
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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2010, 05:55:30 pm » |
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It's a non battle tank, no crush I agree
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lionel23
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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2010, 06:25:06 pm » |
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It's one of the few tanks that, at vet 3, are able to absorb like 8 or so shreks and still run over infantry. It's only 2 pop and I use it offensively to 'screen' a firefly cause its so cheap and expendable.
I do agree it needs to be removed to prevent the crush thing, its not a 12 pop cromwell or anything.
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Groundfire
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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2010, 06:26:37 pm » |
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I could support this.
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2010, 06:32:18 pm » |
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Could just remove human crush from cmd tanks, why does it need it?
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| Dragon2008
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« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2010, 06:37:16 pm » |
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180 mp
30 mu
65 fu
for another 30 mu you get a repair kit.
thats an uber cheap 636HP tank ready to crush any infantry.
if u make one schrecksquad retreat you have basically all the cost back already.
people were compaining about tanks with crush.
well, this is the most retarded one. But simply removing flank speed (thats only used for crushing inf anyway) would fix the most.
Well that only really happens when people who are good using flank speed/ power slide can run over entire squads. If I tried id fail horribly at it cos I cant power slide to save my life or in this case my tank. LOL |
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| jackmccrack
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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2010, 06:40:51 pm » |
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+1 to this thread
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Groundfire
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« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2010, 06:43:28 pm » |
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Could just remove human crush from cmd tanks, why does it need it?
I think that removing human crush from any large tank is just silly. removing flank speed on the cmd crom just reduces it's ability to crush just incase anyone decides to do a 12 cmd start again. I dont have a problem with it either way. its just one of those non-priority refinements that we could do. |
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| jackmccrack
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« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2010, 07:22:51 pm » |
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disabling human crush would better than taking away flank speed
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| Dragon2008
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« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2010, 07:26:27 pm » |
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disabling human crush would better than taking away flank speed
Its still a tank. All the difference is between the cromwell and the cromwell CT is that the CT has a dummy gun. Thats why the vehicle abilities r exactly the same. |
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« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2010, 07:26:38 pm » |
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you do realise we're slowly destroying the ability to crush people in the game?? It's gonna be like vCoH soon where there's virtually no crushing.
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2010, 07:27:41 pm » |
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disabling human crush would better than taking away flank speed
Its still a tank. All the difference is between the cromwell and the cromwell CT is that the CT has a dummy gun. Thats why the vehicle abilities r exactly the same. The Hotchkiss commando tank costs more and doesn't have crush, although granted it does have a gun. |
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« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2010, 07:29:31 pm » |
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you do realise we're slowly destroying the ability to crush people in the game?? It's gonna be like vCoH soon where there's virtually no crushing.
Oh noes! You mean units like the m10 (a dedicated fucking tank destroyer) won't be able to gib infantry?!? And the command tank (meant to buff other tanks) shouldn't be able to do the same?!? Oh the humanity. Everyone knows that m10/CCC + axis inf = the most fail pathing ever |
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| Dragon2008
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« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2010, 07:30:11 pm » |
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disabling human crush would better than taking away flank speed
Its still a tank. All the difference is between the cromwell and the cromwell CT is that the CT has a dummy gun. Thats why the vehicle abilities r exactly the same. The Hotchkiss commando tank costs more and doesn't have crush, although granted it does have a gun. Well it either one way or the other. If flank speed or crush got removed id expect the CCT to be able to use its main gun. The CCT has always been able to crush and had flank speed. I jus wish would stop trying ot mess with VCOH stats which r perfectly fine. |
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2010, 07:32:48 pm » |
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you do realise we're slowly destroying the ability to crush people in the game?? It's gonna be like vCoH soon where there's virtually no crushing.
Oh noes! You mean units like the m10 (a dedicated fucking tank destroyer) won't be able to gib infantry?!? And the command tank (meant to buff other tanks) shouldn't be able to do the same?!? Oh the humanity. Everyone knows that m10/CCC + axis inf = the most fail pathing ever M10 is not losing human crush. Well it either one way or the other.
If flank speed or crush got removed id expect the CCT to be able to use its main gun.
The CCT has always been able to crush and had flank speed.
I jus wish would stop trying ot mess with VCOH stats which r perfectly fine. Cromwell's main gun is far superior to the hotchkiss gun, plus the hotchkiss costs more and has less health. |
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| Jazzhead
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« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2010, 07:34:33 pm » |
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you do realise we're slowly destroying the ability to crush people in the game?? It's gonna be like vCoH soon where there's virtually no crushing.
Oh noes! You mean units like the m10 (a dedicated fucking tank destroyer) won't be able to gib infantry?!? And the command tank (meant to buff other tanks) shouldn't be able to do the same?!? Oh the humanity. Everyone knows that m10/CCC + axis inf = the most fail pathing ever M10 is not losing human crush. I just meant that we don't need more lame crush |
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« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2010, 07:37:49 pm » |
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Well it either one way or the other.
If flank speed or crush got removed id expect the CCT to be able to use its main gun.
The CCT has always been able to crush and had flank speed.
I jus wish would stop trying ot mess with VCOH stats which r perfectly fine. Cromwell's main gun is far superior to the hotchkiss gun, plus the hotchkiss costs more and has less health. Well doesn't the hotchkiss cost more cos of it use of the main gun? Otherwise id expect to see it cheaper than the CCT. Also isnt the hotchkiss a light tank compaired to the cromwell which is a medium tank? |
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« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2010, 07:40:21 pm » |
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I just meant that we don't need more lame crush
How is units which av always had crush even in VCOH going to mean "more lame crushing". |
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2010, 07:51:39 pm » |
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Well it either one way or the other.
If flank speed or crush got removed id expect the CCT to be able to use its main gun.
The CCT has always been able to crush and had flank speed.
I jus wish would stop trying ot mess with VCOH stats which r perfectly fine. Cromwell's main gun is far superior to the hotchkiss gun, plus the hotchkiss costs more and has less health. Well doesn't the hotchkiss cost more cos of it use of the main gun? Otherwise id expect to see it cheaper than the CCT. Also isnt the hotchkiss a light tank compaired to the cromwell which is a medium tank? Yes, the hotchkiss cost more because of the main gun. But as a command tank the cromwell is far superior. More hp, better bonuses, cheaper, less pop cost. I don't see why the cromwell cmd tank needs human crush in light of all these advantages. |
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