CommanderHolt
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« on: June 12, 2010, 01:23:00 pm » |
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So how useful is the regular and MMG variant? Whats the suppression rate of the MMG compared to the Infantry HT? Are they still two shottable by every Axis AT source?
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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2010, 02:25:09 pm » |
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i find its best used with piats, but to strafe them behind buildings and hedges out of los of enemy tanks. But yeah still brittle. not sure of the mmgcarrier stats tho
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CommanderHolt
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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2010, 08:03:51 pm » |
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Did the Bren Carrier have an armor change? In vCoH they are pretty easily damaged by small arms like PE HTs.
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2010, 08:13:29 pm » |
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Did the Bren Carrier have an armor change? In vCoH they are pretty easily damaged by small arms like PE HTs.
n vcoh you always fight bren carriers with basic inf spam at the begin of a game. in eir half of your infantry is upgraded, and you usually dont have a spam of them attacking one bren carrier. thats the reason u think that. edit: looks like they gave bren carrier 30 more health. WHY!!!??? and the bren carrier MG has even 85 extra health...
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2010, 08:45:54 pm » |
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Did the Bren Carrier have an armor change? In vCoH they are pretty easily damaged by small arms like PE HTs.
Bren carriers have the same armor as infantry HTs now.
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2010, 08:55:25 pm » |
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Did the Bren Carrier have an armor change? In vCoH they are pretty easily damaged by small arms like PE HTs.
Bren carriers have the same armor as infantry HTs now. ok. what am i doing wrong now again? i go to attrib/attrib/ebps/races/allies_commonwealth/_europeinruins/vehicles/bren_carrier.rgd it shows type_target_weapon is tp_vehicle_universal_carrier.lua
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2010, 09:09:54 pm » |
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Did the Bren Carrier have an armor change? In vCoH they are pretty easily damaged by small arms like PE HTs.
Bren carriers have the same armor as infantry HTs now. ok. what am i doing wrong now again? i go to attrib/attrib/ebps/races/allies_commonwealth/_europeinruins/vehicles/bren_carrier.rgd it shows type_target_weapon is tp_vehicle_universal_carrier.lua Yes, and infantry HTs have that armor as well. I went through and spent like 4 hours changing every single weapon against that armor. It is basically halftrack armor without the vulnerability vs ATGs.
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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2010, 09:16:49 pm » |
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MMG's are ridiculously good - invulnerable to infantry and have mobile button versus tanks, while being relatively cheap. A lot of players spam them with fireflies to my dismay.
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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2010, 09:24:43 pm » |
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They die to flies to Pak38s and 50 mmATHTs, however.
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Tymathee
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« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2010, 11:42:41 pm » |
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they're very susceptible to any type of at fire but they suppress like .30 cals, do good damage and in packs can really mess up infantry. I like to bring 2 out vs kch at times and the ap rounds it gets are real good vs PE vehicles.
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CommanderHolt
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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2010, 01:52:57 am » |
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Did the Bren Carrier have an armor change? In vCoH they are pretty easily damaged by small arms like PE HTs.
n vcoh you always fight bren carriers with basic inf spam at the begin of a game. in eir half of your infantry is upgraded, and you usually dont have a spam of them attacking one bren carrier. thats the reason u think that. edit: looks like they gave bren carrier 30 more health. WHY!!!??? and the bren carrier MG has even 85 extra health... Leo, my MMG carrier in vCoH just got taken down by a single Flame Pio at half health (was damaged earlier by a burst of MG42 fire). I'm pretty sure I wasn't imagining that part. It needs a health boost because it crappy compared to the Inf HT. Inf HT have about like 50% more health then the regular Bren Carrier and a better MG to boot.
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Tymathee
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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2010, 02:54:22 am » |
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yeah but IHT's can't button. MMG's do go down by small arms still it just takes longer
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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2010, 10:20:29 pm » |
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A single MMG carrier is good for late game ATG screening, lets your inf run off capping or fighting. Also good just because it's a very mobile no-setup HMG.
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CommanderHolt
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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2010, 01:21:47 am » |
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yeah but IHT's can't button. MMG's do go down by small arms still it just takes longer
I was talking about the regular carrier which doesn't have button.
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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2010, 04:02:42 am » |
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It also detects I believe. Furthermore you need to take into account british squads are better for being transported in an open top transport due to bren guns button fire, boys at rifle( doctrinal) and to a degree piats which require positioning, being in a transport negates that flaw,similar to the way infantry halftracks get shrecks close.
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Smokaz
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« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2010, 09:33:13 am » |
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MMG carriers are badass
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« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2010, 09:50:40 am » |
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yeah but IHT's can't button. MMG's do go down by small arms still it just takes longer
I was talking about the regular carrier which doesn't have button. you said mmg carrier, which is the upgraded one, the other is the universal carrier so ur wording was off but the both ahve the same health and armor, most people just tend to use the uni-carrier more aggressively because of whats inside them
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