[WM] I <3 Ostwinds

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[Tymathee]

Ostwinds kill m8's, staghounds, t-17s, quads, m3 ht,  bren carriers, bikes, and stuarts very very well. They can even take out a priest, they're good at killing atg's left over because of the continuous fire and other support weapons, it takes 2 hits to kill a sniper, one of my fav things to do when there's a sniper on the field is to take a bike or s-wagon, find the sniper and then use the ostwind to hunt it down.

They also have 40 sight as opposed to 35 for all other vehicles but the m-18 so you see them before they see you and can be used along with a tank to get a first shot response thus, drawing fire away from your tank and allowing your tank to hit first.

They shoot airplanes, very important (if lucky) that's an idea though, give defensive an ability to buff ostwinds accuracy vs planes, like a toggle (ala Blitzkrieg mod) or an AP round toggle that's active for a short while and gives you increased penetration lowered AOE when the round hits the ground, the blast radius, forget the rgd term. It would still kill infantry but only with a direct hit but it'll make it penetrate light vehicles from the front and be used to hit tanks in the back and actually do damage.

Ooh, and there's no ready aim time, so when they come in range, they fire right away, very useful.

Right, also, they rape airborne if they're in range coming down, they're pretty much done, none will hit the ground.

They also do very well vs emplacements and take them out rather quickly in my experience.

and believe it or not, against shermans, and pretty much every tank but some axis ones they get only 10% of damage but vs Cromwells  and even Churchills, they do 100% of their dmg? Of course its rare to do a frontal penetration but if u get behind them, rape city.

[Masacree]

Lol if you're losing priests to ostwinds I think you have some major issues.

[gamesguy2]

I've killed a priest with an ostwind in 2v2.

You just need to get the drop on it, not that hard.

[Computer991]

I use to love ostwind spam it was so awesome with HEAT rounds<3

[lionel23]

Which we all knew was OP 

Though man some bad play on the British player if a priest gets ganked by an Ostwind, man lol, I would love to have seen that replay of that game.

[Computer991]

Always hating lionel,always.

[LeoPhone]

why do you want buffs for ostwinds if it rapes the shit out of everything already tym?

ost will have trouble taking out stags. the stag does 65 dmg per hit, so 6.15 penetrating shots will kill it. the chanse to penetrate from the front is 0.46
the ostwind's shells have a 0.16 chanse to penetrate a stag/stuart. the stag also has 50 more health than the ostwind.
ost doesnt rape an atg. its way too slow and dies to 3 hits.

shooting airplanes and emplacements doesnt matter shit since it never happens, taking out dropping AB is nice, but also hardly ever happens.

dont tell me to use an ostwind as a scout vehicle. this thing is a fucking AI tank. you have bikes for that(Which dont cost tonnes of fuel pop and mp)

and believe it or not, against shermans, and pretty much every tank but some axis ones they get only 10% of damage but vs Cromwells  and even Churchills, they do 100% of their dmg? Of course its rare to do a frontal penetration but if u get behind them, rape city.

http://www.xfire.com/video/2e96ca/

numbers say it has 0.19 chanse to rearpenetrate sherman. damage the ost does when the it does penetrate is nothing.
yah they do 100% of their dmg vs churchills and cromwells, but a short range rear hit has 0.00158 chanse to penetrate(churchil)

[Calstifer]

You make me so happy Leophone...

[nugnugx]

This is a nerf thread in disguise by Tym



busted

[CafeMilani]

i think there are more important, more obvious imbalances. i dont see it being overpowered anyways. there are just too many counters to it which completely disable it.
you have to change your attitude that units should not die if you do not take care of them. (see ranger vet thread)

[LeoPhone]

roos and stags dont die if you dont care about them.

there is a difference between sending a panther rear 1st into an AT gun and an ostwind being countered by absolutely everything.

[gamesguy2]

why do you want buffs for ostwinds if it rapes the shit out of everything already tym?

ost will have trouble taking out stags. the stag does 65 dmg per hit, so 6.15 penetrating shots will kill it. the chanse to penetrate from the front is 0.46
the ostwind's shells have a 0.16 chanse to penetrate a stag/stuart. the stag also has 50 more health than the ostwind.
ost doesnt rape an atg. its way too slow and dies to 3 hits.

shooting airplanes and emplacements doesnt matter shit since it never happens, taking out dropping AB is nice, but also hardly ever happens.

dont tell me to use an ostwind as a scout vehicle. this thing is a fucking AI tank. you have bikes for that(Which dont cost tonnes of fuel pop and mp)

and believe it or not, against shermans, and pretty much every tank but some axis ones they get only 10% of damage but vs Cromwells  and even Churchills, they do 100% of their dmg? Of course its rare to do a frontal penetration but if u get behind them, rape city.

http://www.xfire.com/video/2e96ca/

numbers say it has 0.19 chanse to rearpenetrate sherman. damage the ost does when the it does penetrate is nothing.
yah they do 100% of their dmg vs churchills and cromwells, but a short range rear hit has 0.00158 chanse to penetrate(churchil)

I don't really have to point out that an ostwind fires about 6 times faster than a stag do I?

[LeoPhone]

maybe, but all those bullets bounce off. i tested ingame, if you have ost vs stag front vs front not moving the ost wins with 50 hp left.

however, if you go lolrush with the fast stag and rearhit the ostwind it will have about 5% hp left. if the ost rearhits the stag most bullets still bounce.

[3rdCondor]

Pumas > ostwinds. 

[gamesguy2]

maybe, but all those bullets bounce off. i tested ingame, if you have ost vs stag front vs front not moving the ost wins with 50 hp left.

however, if you go lolrush with the fast stag and rearhit the ostwind it will have about 5% hp left. if the ost rearhits the stag most bullets still bounce.

At point blank range ostwind averages 9.1 dps vs stag, stag averages 5.5 dps vs ostwind.  Rear armor hits benefits the ostwind FAR more than the staghound.

The ostwind wins no contest.

[Tymathee]

penetration tables and use in games are so different. I"ve raped many a stags with ostwinds and have never lost a fight, even 2 v 1 because it just dealas out too much dmg and then there's side hits, the stag has to go side ways to get to teh rear, so there will be penetrated hits.