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[DarkSoldierX]

[PE] Pool Availability

wtf is this? when is this going to get balanced I didnt even buy all my units.

http://img31.imageshack.us/i/123wsf.jpg/
When is pool avialablity going to start to be tweaked? This is hurting me the most I cant afford these damn luftwaffe and falls.

P.S. image wasnt working so I post link

[jackmccrack]

I can't see what the problem is here. Falls are 9 infantry pool cost and Luftwaffe are 3 infantry pool cost. You have 24 infantry pool left, what is stopping you from getting the squads you want, aside from manpower?

[LeoPhone]

its on -24 mr crack.

u cant make ur company fit coz u probably have too much falls. everything else is completely fine and u can use reserve pool for last vehicle.

[jackmccrack]

Wow yeah that is quite the negative.

Darksoldier post your entire company so we may mix and match for you.

[Tymathee]

looks like you have too many falls. Just like for airborne you can't make a full airborne company because of pool, same goes for luftwaffe, how about you fall back and quit spamming fjs?

[Mysthalin]

Wow yeah that is quite the negative.

-24 nowadays is the same as -8 before the change to everything costing 3x PPs ;p. Nothing truly impressive.

[CrazyWR]

PE is going to get tweaked after doctrines are completed...which is never gonna happen, because BobSmith works one day a month.

[smurfORnot]

why would you even want to spam fj-s...they arent that good anyways if you have too many of them...

[rifle87654]

P.S. image wasnt working so I post link

I think that should do the trick.

[DarkSoldierX]

I dont need help making my company. My point was that I had 7-8 falls yes true, but look at my support and vehicles field too. It was impossible to NOT oversupply if I wanted to make that company which wasn't anywhere near too much. If that company was complete it would cost me 24 oversupply.

BTW that company was my mobile attack Fallchrim/Tankbuster combo with a panther,50mm support, and marders.

[Jodomar]

I agree something needs to be done with the pool for pe. Falls should not cost 9 pool, they should cost the same as an assault gren which is 6 pool. You can not assault with falls they are mainly defensive units, why they cost 9 pool i haven't a clue. They have low health and only 4 guys not to mention crappy armor. Atleast rangers/airborne have a different armor type, an option for bazooka/rr, nades/satchel, and fire-up. Falls do not have any of this, as they are clearly not on par with rangers/airborne and that is why they need to lower falls pool value to 6.

[Tymathee]

i do agree with the fact that PE's pool is screw up but that's because they have so many vehicles and you have to balance between too high and too low because u don't know what someone's going to get.

btw, i'm noticing u have 110 pp, which means you've played lots of games before this, why are you complaining now about this?

[Jodomar]

I was going to wait untill after this next patch when luftwaffe is in. I figured that they might fix atleast the falls price by then. I saw this post and I had to comment on it. I don't know how the other pe pool is but the problem with luftwaffe is that falls are 9 pool. Then you have flak 88, flakvierling, mortar halftrack, hotchkiss stucka (which kind of fails), 50 mm, light at, which all cost support pool. I think flak 88 and flakvierling should cost armor pool since if you runs those you probably are not going to have a ton of armor. If they changed that around and changed falls to 6 pool cost i think it would be fine.

[DarkSoldierX]

Everything just needs to be the right pool. -1 for luftwaffe -2 for falls, -1 for stukahotchkiss +1 for halftrack HT(cuz its kinda awsome) Ect....

Im complaining about this because I havnt bought my doctrine upgrades yet, and if i go through with this I proboly wont be able to afford everything I want.

[Jodomar]

I could live with -2 off falls but I would them to be the same cost as assualt grens. I get what you are saying though and the pool costs do really need to be looked at because it is not very balanced as it stands now.

[CrazyWR]

I dont need help making my company. My point was that I had 7-8 falls yes true, but look at my support and vehicles field too. It was impossible to NOT oversupply if I wanted to make that company which wasn't anywhere near too much. If that company was complete it would cost me 24 oversupply.

BTW that company was my mobile attack Fallchrim/Tankbuster combo with a panther,50mm support, and marders.

needs less 50mms and more marders.  Also, less infantry halftracks.  Honestly, I have no problem building very effective PE companies without oversupplying, with any doctrine.  If you want to use a lot of certain units, pay the price, don't whine for them to change the pools. 

[CrazyWR]

I was going to wait untill after this next patch when luftwaffe is in. I figured that they might fix atleast the falls price by then. I saw this post and I had to comment on it. I don't know how the other pe pool is but the problem with luftwaffe is that falls are 9 pool. Then you have flak 88, flakvierling, mortar halftrack, hotchkiss stucka (which kind of fails), 50 mm, light at, which all cost support pool. I think flak 88 and flakvierling should cost armor pool since if you runs those you probably are not going to have a ton of armor. If they changed that around and changed falls to 6 pool cost i think it would be fine.

Honestly, all those units ARE support units.  They are in the right pool.  If you go heavy on those, go light on everything else so you can use your whole reserve on support units, or pay the price in PP's for Oversupply...I'm all for helping PE out, but this is not the way to do that.

[DarkSoldierX]

Having 9 falls isnt the same as having 9 airborne. Having 9 luftwaffe ground forces isnt the same as having 9 rifles (which the pools availability seems to say)
I dont have availability problems when I run other doctrines.

[CrazyWR]

Why not?  Why are those units different?

[DarkSoldierX]

Airborne = Fireup, RRs, Grenades, airborne armour, Very good survivability, Lost soldier means lost lowly rifle, Very Good At when upgraded

Falls = Soldier Armour, Cloak, FG42s, Bad Survivability. Lost soldier means lose 25% firepower. Very Good AI when upgraded
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Luftwaffe Ground forces = Low HP, Infantry armour, Can build sandbags and wire. Rifle Grenades(if T1 bought) Low survivability Good at recrew. Moderate AI when upgraded. No AT at all

Riflesquad = Low HP, Infantry armour, ?canbuild?, Bars /w Supression fire, Stickies, Grenades. Low survivability Good at Recrew Can upgrade to good ai and moderate AT

Whoes better 4 luftwaffe guys that can possibly have riflegrenades or 4 Riflesquads that can have Bars, Grenades, stickies, and possibly bazookas?