New Defensive Units

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[gamesguy2]

Here's a replay showcasing the new defensive units the 280mm nebelwerfer and the pak36.

Allies: Tym(Airborne lvl 3), Gamesguy(Infantry lvl 8 )

Axis: Brn4meplz(Defensive lvl 7), Fallensoldier(SE lvl 4)

http://www.filefront.com/16998761/Desktop.zip

[brn4meplz]

so many howitzers(not all at once)

[Tymathee]

wee, i won note my airborne fail but those things really aren't that good but can be nice. Just like any other new thing, once people learn how to counter it, it doesn't pose a threat. It has poor long range accuracy (.25, .5, 100 LMS) so keep it at range and ur good. It turns poorly as well, so u can flank it. Dont think u can attack it with tanks, it does 150 dmg and has high penetration but it's not as easy to hit a tank fi they're on the move. 

the wheeled ostwind (pak 36) ss really good vs infantry and good vs light vehicles. matter of fact, both untis pretty much are great light vehicle killers.

[sheffer]

What a pokemon unit that new nebel i think u must just add a direct fire option to old nebel.
and pak36 is AI lol, 8 killed ab for 10 sec. I think something wrong

[LeoPhone]

those nebels in replay were so useless.

the unit could use some more range. make it shoot at a small arc like a grenade or piat. and give it that yellow range indicator thingy like paks have.

[brn4meplz]

Consider the following before continuing to go down that Line leophone.
A higher arc means firing over hedges and/or buildings. More range allows it to not take any counter fire. It also has the range indicator

[Tymathee]

Leo, I"d alrady played with brn twice and against him one other time, i knew how to stay away from them, same with gamesguy, of course they were going to be ineffective.

the pak36 is fine, i just didn't realize i couldn't just RR it up until it was too late lol. Just like with an ostwind, if ur really close to it, it'll rape u a new bung hole

[brn4meplz]

It's essentially a stationary ostwind. People just need to recognize the threat. Someone just lost 2 recon squads so a combined total of a Pak 36 and a Pak 38. he just stood in front of it and tried to outgun me(not even a recon snipe)

[LeoPhone]

why does higher arc means it will go over hedges? if you fire your howy right next to a hedge it will also hit the hedge. and the accuracy, reload, health are so bad, making it have just a tiny bit more range than an atg wouldnt hurt.
tym said it himself. only the 1st few times its effective untill the opponent adapts.

[AmPM]

I honestly don't know why either of these units was put in the way it was, they don't make sense.

37mm PAK would fit much better as a non-mobile Light ATHT style weapon with the option to use a Stielgranate 41 at short range like ATG's buy AP rounds.

As for nebel upgrades, could use the big boy version 21cm or 30cm Nebels. Hull down on tanks would work nicely too, especially combined with cloaked STuGs.

[MittinsKittens]

I got to try and get these units, they sound fun :3
What do you need to get them though?

[sheffer]

Defensive T3

[MittinsKittens]

Looks like I'm taking this then, with Medic Bunkers, and defensive officer :3

[salan]

Atleast they can't blame ME for these ones ..lol.. mmm I think they are interesting, definitely adds to defensives arsenal, which was really lacking in flair.