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[Tymathee]

Just thought if someone thought it might be possible to have only puma's as your vehicles. Upgun and regular pumas.

Recon in Force + Aggressive Maneuvers for Terror would make Pumas pretty good.

Or Lightning War but no bonus offensive like recon in force.

I might do this just for the fun of it.

[Tymathee]

Hmm, seems cuz of Pool, can't put no more than 8 in your company without going over.

[LeoPhone]

wont work as BK with lightning war coz if you attack right away your pumas have 0 sight and will be useless.
but if you wait 1 minute untill the sight goes normal again the enemy has capped the entire map and set up defenses so  ur fucked.
its ridiculus. an agressive rush doctrine that forces you to camp with your units for one minute after they spawn.

[fallensoldier7]

I tried lots of pumas with Terror before.  The vehicle pool is too low for it.  I think you can get a few more pumas with Blitz but I don't think it's enough for this strategy.

That is weird though.. giving Terror an ability that buffs vehicles in enemy territory when the light vehicle pool is kind of low.

[Tymathee]

nah, it makes sense if u think about it. more bang for ur buck u just can't spam them

[Mysthalin]

Stop the lies leophone.

You're not put to 0 sight while using LW.

[Mister Schmidt]

He thinks that because the infantry sprint at spawn thing does that.

[LeoPhone]

i think nothing and i dont lie. WITH LW ALL YOUR UNITS HAVE AMAZINGLY REDUCED SIGHT THE 1ST MINUTE OF THE GAME.

[brn4meplz]

You get set to half sight pretty much. and it's easily countered by having a stationary unit.

If you wanted to open with 3 puma's you just need to have the lead one stop. It then becomes the rear one and keeps moving while the new lead one stops, etc. It's not very action intensive and it works just fine. You only need to move when being shot at with Puma's and if your up gunned and chasing something chances are you're faster and the lower sight is not an issue

[LeoPhone]

how do you flank atgs while stationary? how do you evade bullets while stationary? how do you kite when stationary? how do you play BK while staying stationary? making BK units stronger while being stationary is the most retarded thing ever.

[Smokaz]

Damn you're dense leophone, you can move between shots, comprende? People do this all the time already. You move your panther while its reloading and try to stop it before shooting, same with pumas etc etc. People shoot the gecshutz, then they back it up. They shoot their RRs then run.

You dont HAVE to fire on the move just because the unit can. One of the most basic tips you get up in old vcoh is, most units are more accurate firing stationary.

move stop shoot move etc etc

[Demon767]

exactly leophone. its the basic tactic to always stop your tank to fire more accurately. you already know that from the tiger. its essential to stop before just firing and accelerate after the shot

[LeoPhone]

you got a point there about unit accuracy. but it still doesnt explain why BK units get nerfed while moving.
if im correct this whole 1 minute nerf thing is used to stop people from bombrushing the enemy's starting callin. but isnt that what blitzkrieg should do? have the enemy adapt when they fight a BK player. use a recon run or a jeep so you can see the enemy coming. dont leth the game win it for you. if BK is too strong, nerf the buffs the doctrines give. not the basic abilities.

exactly leophone. its the basic tactic to always stop your tank to fire more accurately. you already know that from the tiger. its essential to stop before just firing and accelerate after the shot

puma != tiger. puma is made for its speed. you are not gonna have it sit there. it will just be hit and die. tiger can take a few shots. puma cant. it needs to keep moving.
pumas do all their dmg while moving. LW pumas dont because they cant see them.
and btw, having the other LW units lose their sight while moving is only a bit less retarded. just tell me how it makes sense BK units should be nerfed while moving.

[Tymathee]

can you see farther when you're running leo? no u can't, the blood is rushing from your head to other parts of your body so you can't see that far in front of you, its the same if you're in a fast moving car, its easy science. Move faster, see less.

[Smokaz]

Puma is made for speed... lol I give up

[Demon767]

can you see farther when you're running leo? no u can't, the blood is rushing from your head to other parts of your body so you can't see that far in front of you, its the same if you're in a fast moving car, its easy science. Move faster, see less.

And if you get awarded the knights cross medal you suddenly become god and can take a bullet to the face   

[Smokaz]

Leophone try looking down on your sneakers while you run, report back to us if it reduces your line-of-sight

krauts

[LeoPhone]

1. this is not about realism.

2. normal units dont lose LOS while moving.

3. fuck you

[Tymathee]

lmao whatever Leo, its in the game play mechanic and without some type of penalty it might be OP. it's still a really good ability.  stick to maps, let the pros do balance.

[brn4meplz]

Lets keep personal attacks to a minimum