panzerman
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« on: November 23, 2010, 10:11:42 pm » |
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oksy to start off in the google spread sheat it says heat rounds is still 25% damage buff...
but now in launcher they have it as 15% damage and 15% penetration which is not really a great tradeoff really.
i just noticed blitz is now only speed buff for vehicles. hope u guys are still keeping the reload buff on it as well.
what was wrong with the old blitz only thing it needed was maybe battlehardened to be better which it kinda is...but instead u nerfed it.
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| panzerman
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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2010, 10:15:16 pm » |
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oh and just noticed tank reapers is still the same.
is HVAP the same as what it was before?
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Killer344
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2010, 10:15:51 pm » |
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Did you miss that HEAT is a T3 now?
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| panzerman
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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2010, 10:18:43 pm » |
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it's a lost T3 really most of blitz apart from the top tier looks a little all over the place
compared to armour or infantry.
like u don't really have a armour specific tier anymore for blitz?
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AmPM
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2010, 10:22:51 pm » |
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No, the new blitz is Elite Armor Grens and Stormies.
Basically, Blitz armor will get destroyed by the Allied armor doctrine. You had little chance before, now its not worth worrying about.
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3rdCondor
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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2010, 10:23:32 pm » |
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Killer has a point tbh.
EDIT: Also AMPM is right. Blitz isn't double tigers with double repairs anymore, it's actually....balanced. Shame on the devs for making blitz a balanced coy.
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brn4meplz
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2010, 10:24:20 pm » |
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HEAT adding damage and Pen benefits medium Armour more.
Coupled with Panzer aces all your Medium tanks spam with Sight for itself.
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AmPM
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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2010, 10:25:34 pm » |
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P4's still lose to an Upgun Sherman and cost more =)
Just so you know.
It MIGHT make STuG spam worthwhile, but it's crap for any of the Heavy Tanks.
I still think Axis could have used an Armor focused doctrine, but as is its more effective to just take Elite Armor on your mans and play infantry spam.
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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2010, 10:32:49 pm » |
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yep u need more than 15% pen buff for a p4 to get good amount of hits on upgun sherman.
so the new docts are all about spam?
like i can see m18 spam with hvap not even KT would survive that.
m10s were bad enough u can have like 7 of them or something.
lightnong war panther may still be ok...i hope...
i guess we just have to wait and see how it all turns out.
Condor if heat tigers where that bad why was no1 ranting on about them like AW ab...
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bbsmith
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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2010, 10:33:31 pm » |
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Difference between old +25% Damage and new +15% Damage/Penetration
The New Heat Rounds has more utility and is better for Medium Tanks than the old one.
The difference between +15% damage and +25% Damage doesnt equal to an extra penetrating hit required to most tanks in the game. The only situation is Tiger vs Pershing, but the Tiger will be penetrating the Pershing 80% of the time instead of 70%.
Panzer IV vs Pershing
Damage 109.375 -> 100.625
Penetration 0.325 -> 0.37375
Hits to Kill 10-> 10
StuG vs Pershing
Damage 109.375 -> 100.625
Penetration 0.55-> 0.6325
Hits to Kill 10-> 10
Tiger vs Pershing
171.875 -> 158.125
Penetration 0.7-> 0.805
Hits to Kill 6 -> 7
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« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2010, 10:37:25 pm » |
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is this a pershing with no doct buffs?
if not maybe add them in and see the diff. the ones u would think people would use with pershings...
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bbsmith
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« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2010, 10:38:45 pm » |
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Why don't you do some math?
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« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2010, 10:43:21 pm » |
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cause i am doing tafe but ok  |
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3rdCondor
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« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2010, 10:43:30 pm » |
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I gotta be honest dood, axis tanks are the shit. I'm making an armored coy (of course  ) but then I'm also sure as shit gonna make a blitz coy. YEE HAW! |
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« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2010, 10:43:58 pm » |
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is this a pershing with no doct buffs?
if not maybe add them in and see the diff. the ones u would think people would use with pershings...
Get the smoke canisters, that 25% chance to miss you didn't have before should help alot (know it saved my callie 100's of times) |
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« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2010, 10:55:49 pm » |
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smoke canister on tiger are abit diff but look better goto shoot them infront of u.
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brn4meplz
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« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2010, 10:57:48 pm » |
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I used smoke Canisters more for my Pio flamer Assault company then my tank itself.
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AmPM
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« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2010, 11:33:11 pm » |
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I know Condor, I hate balanced Companies, which is why I will probably be playing Allies, since they have extreme levels of specialization.
Seriously, you won't see balanced blitz, you will see medium armor double repair spam or Gren/Storm spam.
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« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2010, 12:04:44 am » |
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i think blitz will be fine, you have other stuff to attacked allies tanks. if u go tank v tank with no other at around, thats usually a mistake.
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« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2010, 12:10:15 am » |
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blitz was fine thats what i am saying...
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