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[8thRifleRegiment]

Ive been playing EiR for about half a year now. and there was a few issues i would like to discuss. The number one issue is Spamming, time and time again ive seen american just fill thier company with rifles and AT guns, which is ridiculous, there should be a unit cap. Its stupid when you can just start a company, and spend all 200 PP on an oversupply. Also is the stomps, people complain how no new people come to play this MOD, the reason being is whenever they do join, they are also encouracged to join games where thier loss is gunna happen. So how is it to always lose... you cannt learn anything if your constantly losing becuase these players setup stomps.

[Spartan_Marine88]

Ive been playing EiR for about half a year now. and there was a few issues i would like to discuss. The number one issue is Spamming, time and time again ive seen american just fill thier company with rifles and AT guns, which is ridiculous, there should be a unit cap. Its stupid when you can just start a company, and spend all 200 PP on an oversupply. Also is the stomps, people complain how no new people come to play this MOD, the reason being is whenever they do join, they are also encouracged to join games where thier loss is gunna happen. So how is it to always lose... you cannt learn anything if your constantly losing becuase these players setup stomps.

If there only going rifles and AT guns, go with paks (for m10's) mp40 volks, and put skirts on your goddamn p4's.

BTW this goes both ways, unfortunatly there is 1 person who always does this we know who you are. (he play mostly axis too)

[8thRifleRegiment]

Mrhammus or whatever it is lmao, yea it was implied going both ways, like Gren spam, volks spam, KCH. but it happens alot more with allies

[Smokaz]

Rasmus is dirty spammer boy (I love him) but rifles + atgs en masse aren't exactly OP.

[tank130]

Rasmus is dirty spammer boy (I love him) but rifles + atgs en masse aren't exactly OP.

I don't think anybody is saying it is OP.

I think what it means is, there are complete fucking assholes in this mod who think it is fun to build these kind of companies to grief people. It is a problem with the game mechanic that it can even be done.
Yes it can be countered, but now we need to build specific counters to a very small portion of the community that likes to grief.

This can be corrected very simply by putting in a cap on all units.
To those of you who want to cry and bitch about individuality and the ability to build unique companies...... grow up and learn to play. If you can't win with strategy and skills, go play VCoH.

[8thRifleRegiment]

100% agreed thank you tank for putting the point across ^^

[Smokaz]

You think its a good idea to put a cap on riflemen, and atgs?

[8thRifleRegiment]

i think all units should have a cap. not like a ridiculous cap, but a cap. to encourage alot more skill, and tactics when making your company. encourageing more structured gameplay

[tank130]

You think its a good idea to put a cap on riflemen, and atgs?

Why not? Unless you are spamming a ridiculous griefing amount of them, the cap should not be an issue.
The only people who cry about caps are the assholes that spam....

I am not saying cap rifles at 3, but perhaps 12 to 14

[MultiDoc]

I would have made such a thread myself months ago, but i was sure it would be answered the way most threads like this are... "counter XXX with YYY and ZZZ with WWW" and so on...

The point is - as tank put it - if possible to implement a way so it's not possible to build such hilarious companies just to grief players and get a win.

Just the humble opinion of a mediocre player that is tired of being overwhelmed by such companies.

[8thRifleRegiment]

same im really irratated playing as axis and always having to deal with a spam of some sorts. wherther its rifles +atgs or rangers or commandos.

[salan]

a while back there were three players who only bought infantry and atguns.. the fights were some of the funnest i have had in a long time.  Any ammo you used in anti tank was wasted and they had an advantage because of that.  But it was good fighting, because it was a different play style.   I didn't complain, because ultimately every player here plays a different style, and going with zero vehicles in your company is definitely a different way of competing.

Now if they are over supplying simply because they start with 200 pps that is more of a griefer issue with how the "war" is starting... which won't happen in a full 'warmap' release...  its a by product of the current start /test system.

[shockcoil]

I should note we weren't even oversupplying. Riflemen are cheap on everything including pool

[Tymathee]

Why not? Unless you are spamming a ridiculous griefing amount of them, the cap should not be an issue.
The only people who cry about caps are the assholes that spam....

I am not saying cap rifles at 3, but perhaps 12 to 14

we used to have caps and people went nuts about it so it was changed.

but back in the day this used to be the norm. I remember when I caught hell from a storm spammer in the old old eir for filling my company with at guns, quads, jeeps and rifles to play against him (it worked) but thats how i figured to beat him, i couldn't beat him normally cuz he spammed infantry and i got out attritioned but anyway.

i find no issue with this. If u know who ti is, next time u see him dont play him, warn others in the launcher of what he does. Once people start to be ostracized for being assholes, no one wants to play them but noobs.

[shockcoil]

I see why people find perceived unfairness in spam companies but honestly I don't see how you can argue it's easy to play unless the unit is blatantly OP. When you have a limited amount of unit types in your company you really have to use the units you do have to their full potential. Using riflemen as an example, this means constantly pulling off mg flanks, sacrificing rifles, using 1 man squads to back cap, running squads at tanks feinting stickies and such.

[Smokaz]

I think another affiliated  issue is that some players see aggression as spamming and they dont like the fast paced game.

[LeoPhone]

only issue i can see is that people go retarded oversupply because of the 200 pp start. (after 1 game make a new acc).

how about people get their lvl 5 and 200 pp only after playing 4-5 games as lvl 1?

[8thRifleRegiment]

either way, there should be a cap. spamming shouldnt happen anyhow. not a ridiculous cap.. maybe like 14. so the only people complaining would be the spammers

[COHCommando]

counter it with more spam

[Smokaz]

Whats the problem-causing effect of spamming rifles and ATGs? These units are not extremely hard to counter, not in combination either.