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AmPM
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Re: I want to play axis elite infantry.. but none can compete..!?!
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November 26, 2010, 04:18:19 pm »
Allies totally rape Elite armor =)
Its true, watch what happens to your mans in game.
Then again, it could just be the OP allied buffs =)
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Re: I want to play axis elite infantry.. but none can compete..!?!
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November 26, 2010, 04:41:23 pm »
Quote from: Demon767 on November 26, 2010, 04:07:24 pm
I thought i read somewhere that allies get +2.00 something daamage against elite armor.. think it was ampm..
AMPM is wrong, 100% .. I looked through all the rgds last night to prove the truth on elite armor.
most submachine guns get 75% accuracy, 75% damage against elite armor, all the allied ones i looked throu did.
stg44s got 75% accuracy and 100% damage against elite armor.
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AmPM
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Re: I want to play axis elite infantry.. but none can compete..!?!
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November 26, 2010, 04:42:40 pm »
My question Salan, is what does the tanks do to it...
The same as they do vs every other armor.
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Re: I want to play axis elite infantry.. but none can compete..!?!
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November 26, 2010, 04:43:28 pm »
Quote from: AmPM on November 26, 2010, 04:42:40 pm
My question Salan, is what does the tanks do to it...
The same as they do vs every other armor.
lemme look
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Re: I want to play axis elite infantry.. but none can compete..!?!
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November 26, 2010, 04:53:49 pm »
tanks gun vs elite armor:
Pershing: 75% accuracy, 100% dmg
Jumbo: 75% accuracy, 100% dmg
Sherman 75mm: 75% accuracy, 100% dmg
Sherman 76mm: 75% accuracy, 100% dmg
Cromwell: 65% accuracy, 100% dmg
Cromwell 95mm: 100% Accuracy, 100% dmg
Churchill mkIV: 75% accuracy, 100% dmg
Churchill mkVI: 75% accuracy, 100% dmg
Ostwind: 75% accuracy, 100% dmg
Panzer IV: 75% accuracy, 100% dmg
Panther: 60% accuracy, 100% dmg <<moving multiplier 60% accuracy>>
Tiger: 75% accuracy, 100% dmg
STuH: 40% accuracy, 100% damage
Panzer IV IS: 75% accuracy, 100 dmg
Hetzer: 60% accuracy, 100% dmg <<moving multiplier 60% accuracy>>
Jagdpanther: 40% accuracy, 100% dmg
King Tiger: 40% accuracy, 100% dmg
so again, how are you correct in ASSUMING that tanks rape elite infantry? this is taken directly from the RGD files.
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November 26, 2010, 04:54:24 pm »
interesting difference between STuH and Cromwell 95mm thou
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AmPM
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November 26, 2010, 05:38:06 pm »
Because tanks already rape regular infantry Salan, so how does Elite armor make them any better again?
VS the majority of things that they die to, it does nothing anyway.
Those are basically the same values as vs normal infantry armor.
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Re: I want to play axis elite infantry.. but none can compete..!?!
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November 26, 2010, 07:00:47 pm »
ahh what AMPM is getting at that giving them elite armor is not really a worth t4 buff compared to other t4's
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Re: I want to play axis elite infantry.. but none can compete..!?!
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November 26, 2010, 07:36:43 pm »
Quote from: Demon767 on November 26, 2010, 07:00:47 pm
ahh what AMPM is getting at that giving them elite armor is not really a worth t4 buff compared to other t4's
The best thing you could do is stop listening to AmPm, elite armor is the reason why rangers are so hard to kill, ab armor is just a nerfed version of elite armor as well, elite armor is also given with vet 2 at vCoH to beat back BAR rifles with unupgraded grenadiers, go go go elite armor.
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Re: I want to play axis elite infantry.. but none can compete..!?!
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November 26, 2010, 07:43:04 pm »
Rangers die, just not to unupgraded units. MP40 volks, LMG grens, FG42 FJ, Tanks of any kind, etc; all destroy Rangers.
And sure, its useful, up until that upgraded range croc comes rolling in, or that fast firing Infantry Coy Sherman, or anything with a hand grenade.
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Re: I want to play axis elite infantry.. but none can compete..!?!
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November 27, 2010, 03:07:57 am »
Blah...
So question. What makes an infantry unit "Elite" is it the elite armor or what?
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Quote from: nikomas on October 04, 2012, 09:26:33 pm
"I want proof!"
"I have proof!"
"Whatever, I'm still right"
Dafuq man, don't ask for proof if you'll refuse it if it's not in your favor, logic fallacy for the bloody win.
AmPM
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Re: I want to play axis elite infantry.. but none can compete..!?!
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November 27, 2010, 03:16:15 am »
Elite is an armor type.
However, when talking about Elite infantry, we are talking about a unit that is durable (not meaning just tough, but maybe has a GTFO card) and hard hitting.
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TheLastArmada
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Re: I want to play axis elite infantry.. but none can compete..!?!
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November 27, 2010, 03:18:05 am »
like taking the amazing 3 man KCH squad and giving it another man
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Re: I want to play axis elite infantry.. but none can compete..!?!
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November 27, 2010, 03:18:32 am »
not necessarily having a GTFO card. i dont want to see Axis with fire-up or Commando Smoke
Durable and hard hitting should be the name of the game for any Elite infantry
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TheLastArmada
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November 27, 2010, 03:20:02 am »
also unspammable ?
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AmPM
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November 27, 2010, 03:25:20 am »
All other Elite infantry is spammable.
Personally, I'd be happy with giving Grens the option to buy MP44's for like 95mu =)
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November 27, 2010, 03:26:06 am »
they can, their called Stormtroopers
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Re: I want to play axis elite infantry.. but none can compete..!?!
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November 27, 2010, 03:30:35 am »
Quote from: TheLastArmada on November 27, 2010, 03:26:06 am
they can, their called Stormtroopers
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Re: I want to play axis elite infantry.. but none can compete..!?!
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November 27, 2010, 03:33:09 am »
no he means full set for 95 mu... but assault grens are similar... there not that spectacular..
giving 6gren squad mp44's costing 180 and thats a different story
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Re: I want to play axis elite infantry.. but none can compete..!?!
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November 27, 2010, 03:49:11 am »
I still wonder why Stormies with dual mp44 and medkits costs 200 munitions. Add in bundle/assault its 245-250 munitions on a SINGLE squad with zero anti tank and without get out jail free card
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