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« on: December 02, 2010, 07:59:02 pm »

There are plenty of units and weapons in EiRR who's stats are relatively unknown. In most cases, even if a unit has been changed to fit the mod, a quick look at CoH-Stats will fill you in on it's various aspects; health, armor, weapons, etc for units, or damage, accuracy, penetration, etc for weapons. However, there are quite a few things in EiR which are simply unlisted (as CoH-Stats was created for vCoH, not EiR). Not knowing even the basic stats of a unit can be very frustrating, or make it hard to judge a units balance or worth (this is true for weapons, as well), and not having and official list of these things after so long seems pretty stupid to me.

So I have taken it upon myself to research and post up the stats of these units/weapons here.

Relevant links:
*CoH-Stats : Contains the stats for most of vCoH's units and weapons. Some information is outdated, but most of it is correct. Also contains a nice DPS calculator, which is nice.
*EiRR Unit Price List : Lists all the units in EiRR, their price, their abilities, and their veterancy levels. IIRC, this is taken directly form the RGDs, so they should be accurate.
*vCOH -> EIRR Basic Stat Change list : List of changes made to vCoH units/weapons for EiRR.
*Final Doctrine Drafts : Links to all the current doctrine drafts. However, this is both outdated and unfinished; the doctrines were just implemented, and as such are undergoing constant gameplay/balance changes.
*You should also check out the Balance and Bug forums for information and discussions on certain units.
*Corsix's mod Studio : This tool allows you to go through the RGD files of not only vCoH, but also EiRR, other mods, and even other Relic games (such as Dawn of War). This is what I'm using to look up this information.

Listed Units:

Listed Weapons:
Boys AT Rifle
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2010, 07:59:10 pm »

Boys AT Rifle
(I *believe* this is the AT Rifle used by RE, Armor and Luft, though I'll have to do some looking around to check.)
(On closer inspection of the RGDs, I don't know if this is weapon PE/US use. I'm fairly sure it *is* the weapon Brits use, though.)

Found in EuropeInRuins.module / attrib / attrib / weapon / boys_at_rifle.rgd

Damage
60

Range
L/M/S
35/17/8

Accuracy:
Long/Medium/Short
.35/.6/1

Scatter Angle
10

Penetration Multipliers
L/M/S
.85/1/1.1

Deflection Damage Multiplier
.15

Cooldown
8 - 10

Cooldown Multiplier
L/M/S
1/1/.75

Fire Aim Time
.3 - .5

Fire Aim Time Distance Multiplier
L/M/S
2/1/.25

Post Firing Aim Time
.25

Ready Aim Time
.25

Wind Up
0

Wind Down
1.3

Reload
4

Clip Size
6

Area of Effect Distance
0

Friendly Fire Damage Modifier
L/M/S
.1/.1/.1

Cover Multipliers
[Cover Type - Accuracy Multiplier, Damage Multiplier]
Default - 1, 1
Garrison - .4, .75
Heavy - .5, .5
Light - .5, 1
Negative - 1.25, 1.25
Smoke - .25, 1
Water - 1, 1.5
Bunker - .15, .75

Target Tables:
[Unit,              Accuracy, Moving Accuracy, Damage, Penetration]
Motorcycle,         1.25,     .6,              1,      3   
Ostwind,             1.1,      1,               .75,    .3744
Panther,              1.1,      1,               .75,    .0749
Panzer 4,             1.1,      1,               .75,    .2245
StuG,                  1.1,      1,               .75,    .16585
Tiger,                  1.1,      1,               .75,    .09265
Marder III,            1.1,      1,               1,      .5
Hetzer,                 1.1,      1,               .75,    .1265
Hummel,                1.1,      1,               1,      .5
Jagdpanther,          1.1,      1,               .75,    .0875
Infantry                 1,        .5,              .25,    2
Infantry Airborne,    1,        .5,              .25,    2
Infantry Heroic,       .85,      .5,              .25,    2
Infantry Soldier,       .75,      .5,              .25,    2
Sniper,                   .75,      .5,              .25,    2
Flak 88,                  1.25,     1,               1,      1
Puma Armored Car,   1.25,     .75,             1,      .87
PE Armored Car,       1.25,     .75,             1,      1.2
Wehr Halftrack,        1.25,     .75,             .75,    .95
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2010, 08:39:47 pm »

This is a really good idea, and I'm glad someone is taking the time to do it.

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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2010, 12:04:29 am »

wow, uh, good luck man that's a lot of work. Might be best if you put 'em on google docs or make a spreadsheet/text file or somethin and link to it. Putting it up here is going to clutter it a lot.
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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2010, 01:32:34 am »

wow, uh, good luck man that's a lot of work. Might be best if you put 'em on google docs or make a spreadsheet/text file or somethin and link to it. Putting it up here is going to clutter it a lot.
Yeah, I tried devising something like that. I actually don't think it'd work very well.
It's not too cluttered the way it is, and it's still pretty easy to navigate.
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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2010, 01:49:39 am »

they are already listed. in corsix Wink
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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2010, 02:51:52 am »

What leo said Cheesy
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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2010, 03:25:12 am »

they are already listed. in corsix Wink
I'm putting them here because not everyone is willing or able to download and install Corsix, and navigate a confusing mess of RGDs to find something out.
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« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2010, 04:28:50 am »

COH in corsix is actually hard compared to DOW1. Although there is little to learn. You just have to use your brain, which most people don't.  Wink

Ha ha if you would like some help with this, send me a list of desired units weps etc that you would like done now becuase there more important etc. OR you could just give me a list of any for a race and work on them all. Like "do all the weapons for the commonwealth force." Just giving a hand if you need it. 
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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2010, 04:50:20 am »

I just want to know what the stats for the le.IG 18 75mm Howitzer are, I looked through all of the axis weapon RGDs and couldn't find it.
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« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2010, 04:52:39 am »

It's listed in the RGD's as 280mm nebelwerfer
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« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2010, 05:37:56 am »

If anyone wants to help with any of these, just let me know. I'm not particular about who does what, but if you do go looking up something, post in the thread so we don't have multiple people looking up the same stuff.
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