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[Artekas]

That's a great point, Wind. Fair enough.

Just for the record nug;

you are comparing 2 different platforms which differ in many ways.

Guess what you're doing?

[nugnugx]

Guess what you're doing?

i told why smoke and medkit do not differ - survivability.  there is nothing ELSE beside this.

They just buff the survivability in DIFFERENT way.

medkits heal

smoke lessens damage.

the MAIN point is the SAME.

[Smokaz]

So .. smoked riflenades with medikits then

[nugnugx]

So .. smoked riflenades with medikits then

i wanna see this !  and give them to japanese  or russians

[smurfORnot]

see patch is in,just curious how usless they have boceme now...will see...

[Smokaz]

sounds kinda OP

[Artekas]

Alright, despite the fact that Wind is right and this argument is fail, I can't let it go.

I told you why riflemen and ostwinds do not differ - hurting infantry. There is nothing else besides this.

They just hurt infantry in a different way.

Riflemen fire rifles.

Ostwinds fires a 37mm cannon.

The MAIN point is the SAME.

[TheWindCriesMary]

Just for the record nug;

Guess what you're doing?

 +1

 -Wind

[nugnugx]

I told you why riflemen and ostwinds do not differ - hurting infantry. There is nothing else besides this.

you cannot compare rifles and ostwinds vs medkit and smoke , it's an ability that serves 1 purpose, while rifles and ostwinds are units that can do other things that include 'hurting units'.

If you'd say that panzerfaust and stickie do the 1 same thing,  then i would say yes.

[RoyalHants]

[Artekas]

Alright, I give up on this argument because Riflemen and Ostwinds being completely different in all but one way and medkits and smoke being completely different in all but one way are somehow different for you.

But this argument was entirely irrelevant anyways, so you have proved nothing.

[101stGG]

WOW, FSJ are rape!

[nugnugx]

WOW, FSJ are rape!

see smokaz? that's what i'm talking about, same allied defend boy squadron in every thread.

[101stGG]

see smokaz? that's what i'm talking about, same allied defend boy squadron in every thread.

What?

I mean, they are the best AI unit out there. I wish rifles or commandos or AB or grenadiers (for the sake of argument) survive shots like that and regen like that from doctrine unlocks...

Hell, even AT. Rangers die with PzIV? Try a unit like FSJ with Zooks vs Sherman. Or any other tank...

PS: This is my first observation about any unit so far. Maybe you are confusing me with some one else.

[Artekas]

When you just insult the people who disagree with you instead of making arguments, nobody cares what you have to say and nothing will be changed.

101stGG, you're taking it a little too far there. A unit of FSJ with zooks will never really touch a Sherman, even with an invincibility button.

[Katusha]

great.. i wont be surprised if the medkits take away HP from my units now

ffs, dont complain about covering fire, its  a  doc ability, you allied fanboys get it just with BAR

and boo hoo, now your assault engies cant touch falls? i mean how bad is that, falls arent supposed to be crazy AI in the first place right?

and these are vet 3 falls.. i dont think you should take vet into consideration when deciding whether an ability is OP

also i had double T3's buffing the medkit ability, and giving my falls AB armor + 15hp, i gave up having a t4 to have that

i agree with nerfing it a little bit.. but i can just imagine how useless they will become

P.S. i hate allied fanboys

[101stGG]

When you just insult the people who disagree with you instead of making arguments, nobody cares what you have to say and nothing will be changed.

I'm out of here.

[Artekas]

I was talking to nug, not you, 101st. For the part you quoted.

[nugnugx]

When you just insult the people who disagree with you instead of making arguments,

you probably were bullied alot in your life if you think that 'allied defense boy squadron' is an insult, and he did not disagree with me, he was making an remark.

Grow same balls man, life is tuff.

nobody cares what you have to say and nothing will be changed.

So you are the oracle of EIR now by being here no longer max than a few months ? great !


ps: it's also interesting that you always need to have the last word in and never can drop the argument even if the facts clearly state otherwise.
pps: you've also said that you are done, but i wasn't talking to you , but to 101st , which he clearly can answer for himself.

[Artekas]

I like how you insult me by telling me to "grow some balls" because I called an insult that wasn't even directed at me (someone who's played less than 10 games as allies) an insult.

I don't give a shit about you insulting me, never said I did either. I simply told you you won't change anything that way. I also never proclaimed to be the oracle of EiRR, having been here for three weeks. However, regardless of how long I've been here, this does not affect my overall intelligence and common sense. Unlike you: I am not a retard. It doesn't take a genius to realise that when balance team members read your post that only insults other members, they're not going to give two shits about it.

However, if you wish to continue your retarded way of thinking in that insulting people will cause devs to give a shit about your post and make balance changes, go ahead. I can't stop you.