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[smurfORnot]

if it's just reskin of 280,where is the problem...I didnt see that anyone blobbed them...and 1 on the field is not that kind of a problem,I know since I used 280,and alone they were preety crapy....

[Groundfire]

I think that with a reload increase, and maybe a decrease in tracking, the penetration   of med. tanks becomes acceptable. That way skirting Light vehicles can make it through without too much dmg.

Right now, these things are a very effective jeep destroyer. Snipers are in good hands behind 2 of these little guns.

Still, Pershings should bounce the shells, reduce penetration there.

[Tymathee]

No, its a reskin of the 280mm Neb to make it easier to tell which is which.

Get it right Tym.

Actually, if you want to reflect actual effectiveness, it should have similar penetration to the PaK 38.

I know exactly what it is ampm, i know it's a reskin, so it used the same damn stats, stop trying to make me look foolish, you just do it to yourself. They didn't change anything but the skin so what i said was essentially correct

it's a 75mm HE gun with the stats of a 280mm rocket which is what it used to be!

[Mysthalin]

And WHY exactly does a change in skin warrant a nerf to it's stats?

[LeoPhone]

And WHY exactly does a change in skin warrant a nerf to it's stats?

coz it was still OP? new skin is just an excuse to start discussing about it again.

[Mysthalin]

It's in no way OP, though? It's essentially a more expensive pak that sacrifices fire rate and accuracy for some anti-infantry capability. The only thing I've seen is realism arguments of "75mm HE shell therefore should suck forever".


75mm HE shell or >9000mm TROGDOR BURNINATOR NUKE - it doesn't matter. What matters is gameplay, not realism. If you don't like it, refer to the rules of the balance forums. If you don't like the rules, eat cock(chicken) stew.

[Tymathee]

i dont think it needs any other change but a penetration nerf because it shouldn't be a beat all, it essentially can beat its counter with the penetration it has.

[AmPM]

i dont think it needs any other change but a penetration nerf because it shouldn't be a beat all, it essentially can beat its counter with the penetration it has.

Actually, it can't, you can just circle strafe them.

[Spartan_Marine88]

i dont think it needs any other change but a penetration nerf because it shouldn't be a beat all, it essentially can beat its counter with the penetration it has.

tbh, its counter is a mortar, arty or well placed piats/riflenades. I think the leig is fine tbh.

[Mysthalin]

I see no concievable reason why your Pershings get beaten by leIGs, tbh - other than user-end failure.

[Artekas]

Yeah... given the scatter and 25% accuracy of the thing, it's not killing armour any time soon. Still, I think it's penetration should be reduced significantly, because it's meant for anti-infantry. I see no reason why with some luck with an anti-infantry weapon should take 1/4th of an M10's health off.

[Mysthalin]

I personally see no reason why people would buy it at all over the MG42 if it's anti-vehicle capabilities were removed.

[AmPM]

Yeah... given the scatter and 25% accuracy of the thing, it's not killing armour any time soon. Still, I think it's penetration should be reduced significantly, because it's meant for anti-infantry. I see no reason why with some luck with an anti-infantry weapon should take 1/4th of an M10's health off.

You ASSUME it was meant for Anti-Infantry; it was made as a small direct fire howitzer type unit, and if you will notice, all other arty can damage armor.

[Tymathee]

I personally see no reason why people would buy it at all over the MG42 if it's anti-vehicle capabilities were removed.

not meant to replace but to supplement. Why buy paks if you've got LEIG's?

[Mysthalin]

not meant to replace but to supplement

And how is the mortar defficient in this role?

Why buy paks if you've got LEIG's?

Perhaps because paks are far more reliable in hitting tanks/vehicles, have far better DPS, have cloak...

Shall I continue?

[11on2d6]

Does anyone know if its getting changed to a more dedicated anti infnatry weapon or is it going to remain a kinda jack of all trades thing which is good vs infantry and tanks?

I was jsut thinking it would be cool if it was like some sort of deployable flamethrower, would be pretty unique and cool.