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Author Topic: Big Thread no 12345: map control, spam and infantry/atgs  (Read 18548 times)
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tank130 Offline
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« Reply #60 on: December 05, 2010, 07:54:24 pm »

Why don't we just put a cap on infantry and the spam problem is solved.....
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« Reply #61 on: December 05, 2010, 08:10:42 pm »

Tank, this is a flame thread. Simple useful ideas like that could get you banned. Better hope the troll mods dont read that.
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« Reply #62 on: December 05, 2010, 08:12:24 pm »

Tank, this is a flame thread. Simple useful ideas like that could get you banned. Better hope the troll mods dont read that.

cough EliteGren cough mhrrasmus

what? who said that?
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« Reply #63 on: December 05, 2010, 08:14:39 pm »

Were not doing hardcaps because we can come up with something more creative with more freedom than BAM! You get 20 Rifles, You get 10 Grens, You get 10 Volks, Thats IT, end of discussion, pour all the rest of your 5k+ manpower into tanks and vehicles so we now spam that.
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« Reply #64 on: December 05, 2010, 08:21:18 pm »

How bout a graduated pool system.

And to whoever is writing about playing to win: this is not PGL. This is a mod trying to get the game balanced and fun. People play the game to have fun. I want to win, but I primarily want to have fun doing so. I also want to reward people who are able to out think me and out micro me and out strat me. I dont think we want to reward people who basically win the game before it starts by buying 600 assualt engineers.
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« Reply #65 on: December 05, 2010, 09:00:15 pm »

Just have a limit on how many of a certain unit you can purchase (tailored to each doctrine and faction), and for every purchase after that there is an exponentially increasing SP cost. Also, have Reward Point purchasable with SP.
Now the player is restricted in some ways, but still free to play as they see fit: they can have a largely oversupplied company, a ton of vet, multiple reward units or a lot of offmaps, but they can't have it all (like they do now). It basically puts a soft-cap on the most complained about units/abilities in the game, but does not out-and-out limit any sort of playstyle or battalion composition.
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« Reply #66 on: December 29, 2010, 05:39:15 am »

Food for thought (After looking at company composition):

ATG spam has never been an issue (with the exception of the notorious pak cloak & pak sniping 57mm)

Issue now I think, is due to the large amount of munitions. Previously, when you spammed ATGs, it meant you had little munis left over for upgrades... which means its really meat bags (volks/rifles) with ATGs and just some support weapons or unupg tanks etc.

Now, theres so much munis, u can afford 5 ATGs and still have left over to buff ur inf, which allows them to counter both elite inf and tanks.
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« Reply #67 on: December 31, 2010, 10:31:30 pm »

Just have a limit on how many of a certain unit you can purchase (tailored to each doctrine and faction), and for every purchase after that there is an exponentially increasing SP cost. Also, have Reward Point purchasable with SP.
Now the player is restricted in some ways, but still free to play as they see fit: they can have a largely oversupplied company, a ton of vet, multiple reward units or a lot of offmaps, but they can't have it all (like they do now). It basically puts a soft-cap on the most complained about units/abilities in the game, but does not out-and-out limit any sort of playstyle or battalion composition.
Quoting this because I'm a badass.
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« Reply #68 on: December 31, 2010, 10:47:18 pm »

everything is fine it the players and if the stays this way people leave if these does get changed people leave besides who cares it off maps easly dogde you just dont blob (i am yet to learn how ) maybe just maybe let the axis get double heavys might solve some problems
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« Reply #69 on: December 31, 2010, 10:48:21 pm »

This is a mod trying to get the game balanced and fun. People play the game to have fun. I want to win, but I primarily want to have fun doing so. I also want to reward people who are able to out think me and out micro me and out strat me. I dont think we want to reward people who basically win the game before it starts by buying 600 assualt engineers.
This + 1000
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« Reply #70 on: January 01, 2011, 12:23:33 pm »

This game perhaps best exemplifies the problem:

http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=17508
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