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« on: February 01, 2011, 10:55:34 pm » |
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At the moment, these weapons are available to both british and american infantry. They have very poor penetration against Wehr but do exceedingly well versus PE minus the P4 IST, Panther, Hetzer, and Jag. Overall, they are a fairly cost effective purchase so long as you know when to call them in and how to use them.
My concern is in regards to their ability to easily counter weapon crews namely PAKS and FLAKS. They take 3-6 volleys to kill either of these weapons making them cost effective pretty quickly. On top of their other light AT capacities, this puts them way over the top.
The only other handheld AT weapon capable of doing this is the Airborne RR rifle. In contrast, these rifles are 180 munitions but can also fight all forms of armor as opposed to just light armor.
My recommendation, find a way to reduce the damage or accuracy of these weapons versus guns if possible, but maintain their current light AT capabilities. If this is not a possible solution, a price increase ought to occur.
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Killer344
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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2011, 10:57:14 pm » |
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Already slated for next patch.
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If I get shot and it's a gay medic fixing me up, he's not gonna be fondling my balls while he does it. You can't patch a chest wound and suck a cock at the same time.
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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2011, 11:18:48 pm » |
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how is it being addressed?
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2011, 01:36:07 am » |
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how is it being addressed?
damage of the boys can be lowered vs only heavy weapon teams easy. |
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2011, 02:51:19 am » |
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yea its quite annoying when a boys squad gets behind a hetzer for the damadge from those things is quite big for some at rifles but my assult grens most of the time just take them down before they do any real damadge.
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| PonySlaystation
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2011, 05:03:26 am » |
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The problem is that they can kill an 88 in two seconds and a pak in less than that.
I also think that they are too expensive unless they are used for this exact purpose.
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2011, 05:43:12 am » |
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I also think that they are too expensive unless they are used for this exact purpose.
Did you even read previous posts ? they are getting nerfed not buffed |
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2011, 05:47:59 am » |
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Yeah, but only the damage to flaks and paks.
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nugnugx
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2011, 05:56:55 am » |
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so? your post still does not make sense.
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| PonySlaystation
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2011, 06:11:04 am » |
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They are very expensive, so unless you use them extremely well or use them to destroy paks they will never make up for their cost.
I just think they are a little too expensive that's all.
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2011, 06:15:29 am » |
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They completely shut down most PE builds as it is?
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« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2011, 06:25:30 am » |
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No, most PE vehicles are faster and have longer range than AT rifle squads
But I don't wanna start a whole balance discussion on something I don't think is broken. Then again most handheld AT is expensive, it's a shame too, you rarely see a grenadier with a shreck anymore.
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2011, 06:27:25 am » |
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Ok, so which PE vehicles are effective against infantry and have longer range than AT rifles?
The Armoured Car?
That's pretty much the only one I can think of.
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« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2011, 06:29:25 am » |
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spam LATH,hahahah
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nugnugx
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« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2011, 06:34:32 am » |
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spam LATH,hahahah
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« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2011, 06:35:10 am » |
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I did not say effective btw.
Armored car
Mortar
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LATH
Scout Car
Infantry Halftrack
Pretty much every vehicle is faster and has longer range. So unless they sit in a building you can usually get away without a scratch.
The infantry halftrack and scout car don't have a much longer range but they can suppress.
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« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2011, 06:48:07 am » |
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If the rifles get into 35 range (both range and sight of the ATR squad, and sight of all of the units you listed) - NONE of those vehicles is capable of reversing back out before the rifles pop off a volley. Unless of course, the vehicle was moving backwards in the first place.
IHTs do not properly suppress at anything beyond short range and the Scour Car can not move if it wishes to suppress.
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« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2011, 06:49:46 am » |
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and what pony,your sugestion is just to keep moving back,until enemy has majority of map? lol
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« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2011, 06:53:36 am » |
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yeah and he should try that with a marder
one click that is a micrometer of a its straight direction back and it turns slowly around like a moron not moving backwards anymore
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« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2011, 06:56:37 am » |
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nah,that's not completely true,marder sometimes does move backwards,and doesnt always get himself dead because driver rode a bicycle before he got in marder  |
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