nugnugx
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« on: February 04, 2011, 04:35:32 am » |
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Now that 50mm ATHT is 5 pop, marder could be dropped from 6 pop to 5 pop and 8 pool value like the 50mm
PE are in need of AT badly and ATHTs and marders are its main option but constant nerfing to them does not help it.
Marder costs more fu and 50mm ATHT mu so people could choose which one more they want according to their company build.
If you find this op a little, the marders gun lock down could be nerfed by small ammount to reflect this.
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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2011, 05:02:53 am » |
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i would suggest to remove the 50mm and giving pe some pak38 for lower price that can't be cloaked
and marder needs no changes
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nugnugx
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2011, 05:06:07 am » |
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Pe does not need pak
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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2011, 05:12:04 am » |
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it does it need something AT thats not fuel based and instantly dies to enemy AT
not lower pop for their okish mobile fuel based AT
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nugnugx
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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2011, 05:12:51 am » |
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Just shows you don't know eir gameplay bigdick
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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2011, 05:13:57 am » |
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50mm is perfect for supporting a marder in a tank assault.
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« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2011, 05:16:45 am » |
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I agree with BigDick.
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bad luck skaffa> creates best and most played eir maps
> hated for creating best and most played eir maps
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Don't knock it til uve tried it bitchface, this isn't anything like salads version. Besides u said a semois conversion would never work, now look that's the most played map, ohgodwhy.jpg r u map lead |
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nugnugx
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« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2011, 05:18:02 am » |
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I agree with BigDick.
MG has been already added , add pak , add mortar why not play wehr for that ? don't make wehr out of PE, i play PE because they have different options to wehr. |
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« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2011, 05:21:13 am » |
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The 50mm needs pak ambush bonus, you pay Mu And Fu And MP yet its worse than the pak38 and the Marder. its a shitty option that your forced to used. its over priced. it needs buff to reflect its price
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« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2011, 05:32:41 am » |
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You have to utilize its speed and long range. It's a lot faster than a marder.
Pak/Stug like cloak is actually a really good idea. It's really annoying how this unit never manages to hit anything. Add a little damage buff to that and you have pak cloak that can probably extend the life of this very expensive unit.
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« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2011, 05:45:52 am » |
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your clueless
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« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2011, 05:49:56 am » |
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MG has been already added , add pak , add mortar
why not play wehr for that ? don't make wehr out of PE, i play PE because they have different options to wehr.
mg pak mortar had been added for brits as well to fit better in this attack defend style mod and actually the mg wasn't really needed because all it may achieve is to help forcing of infantry with handheld AT from your fuel and vehicle based AT why not just introduce AT thats recrewable and not fuel based? |
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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2011, 05:54:04 am » |
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Pe does not need pak
Why was it than given to Brits? They certainly didnt need one, since they have 17pounder that is able to move. It seems highly unfair.  |
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« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2011, 06:05:16 am » |
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PE is about mobility so they don't need a pak.
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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2011, 06:46:14 am » |
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Why was it than given to Brits? They certainly didnt need one, since they have 17pounder that is able to move. It seems highly unfair. The 17 pounder is a fixed emplacement really, although we are considering turning it into a mobile piece like the PAK40 (RE will be able to build an emplacement structure for it to sit in) |
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« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2011, 06:47:24 am » |
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PE sucks in any kind of defensive scenario. mgs helps alot for now, but all at can be pushed back by single atg, and pe have no chances on urban maps. (in town and with all craters and potholes after allies artillery atgs can move much faster that 50mm, murder and any other "mobile" at)
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« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2011, 06:48:14 am » |
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TH is getting a pak 36, if it helps.  |
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« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2011, 06:50:16 am » |
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"Door Knocker" will help alot lol
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« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2011, 07:13:25 am » |
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The 17 pounder is a fixed emplacement really, although we are considering turning it into a mobile piece like the PAK40 (RE will be able to build an emplacement structure for it to sit in)
the 17 pounders are long ranged and re-deployable and for more mobile AT they got a combination of button vehicle and piats and as a not complete light vehicle based armee they got the best mobile longrange tankdestroyer not saying that giving them 6pounder was a bad idea in general but i don't see a valid point in that argumentation that brits needed it more than PE i can create an equal argumentation saying PE need more defense AT (and no the marder can't be counted as one because it dies to quick to to much things to be used defensive |
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« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2011, 07:15:11 am » |
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the 17 pounders are long ranged and re-deployable and for more mobile AT they got a combination of button vehicle and piats and as a not complete light vehicle based armee they got the best mobile longrange tankdestroyer
not saying that giving them 6pounder was a bad idea in general but i don't see a valid point in that argumentation that brits needed it more than PE
i can create an equal argumentation saying PE need more defense AT (and no the marder can't be counted as one because it dies to quick to to much things to be used defensive
17Pdr has the same range as regular ATGs. It has no longer nor shorter range. + Marders are awsome. I got a vet 2 marder with 2 games. Those who says that they are utter shit seem to fail microing them. Sure, Enemy ATG creep is dangerous but not unbeatable  If you are scared and lacking anti tank just buy more marders. Why buy all the tons of light vehicles and heavy tanks crap when you can buy regular infantry, normal PGs with G43s fair quite well against anything allies can toss at you. Infantry with SMGs? Hop into building! No building? Slow them and runnnn until you got the upper hand |
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