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[sheffer]

17Pdr has the same range as regular ATGs. It has no longer nor shorter range.

17Pdr - 65m
57mm - 60m
 

[kwiatekkek]

say  no to  PE paks!

[TheIcelandicManiac]

say  no to  PE paks!

hehehehehhehehehheheh when the tank hunter doc will be added they (me) will have one.

[kwiatekkek]

all support   weapons  will only  ecourage  a campy play  style which PE is not  designed  for.
i duno do  we realy  want  another  Wehr wearing  different  uniforms?

[smurfORnot]

marder is fine,it's 50mm that is shitty,lol

[TheIcelandicManiac]

all support   weapons  will only  ecourage  a campy play  style which PE is not  designed  for.
i duno do  we realy  want  another  Wehr wearing  different  uniforms?

why not?
Pak 36: Light ATG with
Stielgranate 41 and Treadbraker
if the atgun gets cloack it should be able to combat most m10rushes on jagds and hetzers and enable me to keep my enemy in my jagds cone of fire for longer and adding the APCR any sherman or m10 should die in 2-3 shots.

[NightRain]

LATHTs are excellent with Treadbreaker. Every marder should always be accompanied by one. It is like companing a sticky squad next to a atg except your scheisse will be more mobile and gets a bonus (focus fire) on it. Add in a ketten and you can spot them too

[Mysthalin]

Personally i'm not too keen on the Pak36.. It seems like nothing more than an inbreed between a LATHT and an ostwind that can't move as fast as either.

[BigDick]

LATHTs are excellent with Treadbreaker. Every marder should always be accompanied by one. It is like companing a sticky squad next to a atg except your scheisse will be more mobile and gets a bonus (focus fire) on it. Add in a ketten and you can spot them too

lol paying 60 fuel and almost 100mun for the only temporary vehicle engine damager in the game? are you serious? who buys this shit?

lást time i saw it used was by a noob telling me that his g43 gren upgrade are at rifles and the light at ht is the only "at" he got in core callin

why not?
Pak 36: Light ATG with

wouldnt fix the issues pe got reliable fighting and penetrating churchill and pershing armor

[Demon767]

50mm needs some love

[kwiatekkek]

where are all  those  crazy  fuked up PE  early game  rushes ?
gg within   first  10 - 15mins.
nobodys  doin it anymore.
PE slowly  becomes  a new Wehr .... 

[NightRain]

lol paying 60 fuel and almost 100mun for the only temporary vehicle engine damager in the game? are you serious? who buys this shit?

lást time i saw it used was by a noob telling me that his g43 gren upgrade are at rifles and the light at ht is the only "at" he got in core callin
wouldnt fix the issues pe got reliable fighting and penetrating churchill and pershing armor

200 fuel investment for anti tank and anti infantry. I say its worth it vs every tank you can see. If its pershing you will shit bricks. If it is M10 you don't need to treadbreak it. If its churchill croc, you shit bricks. If it is a LV you can slow it down so that it wont get your marder. T17 awsome, M8 good etc. Plus LATHT can help marder and penetrate light vehicles AND take on infantry with its focus fire

*Shit bricks= Joy cause you can kill 'em!

[Demon767]

Id like to see you micro all that at once from ATG creep, rangers, airborne, commandos. actually. prove it with 5 replays against competent players or your argument is shit and zero

[NightRain]

Id like to see you micro all that at once from ATG creep, rangers, airborne, commandos. actually. prove it with 5 replays against competent players or your argument is shit and zero

I don't see any point in your statement, why I'd have to play vs ATGs and infantry with a Marder III and a LATHT? When both are anti tank only with LATHT having Focus Fire vs infantry.  I only said that it is a mere investment vs Armor not vs infantry, ATGs and stuff. The LATHT gives infantry hard time while it and treadbreaker gives hard time vs armored units.

[Demon767]

Because no encounter is ever Anti-tank vs Tank. any reasoning that relies on this to happen fails.

[NightRain]

Because no encounter is ever Anti-tank vs Tank. any reasoning that relies on this to happen fails.

If it is anti tank gun and Tank you can kite the anti tank gun by pulling backward. Plus ATG + a tank would vary from 10-15 + 5 pop when your callin is solid 9 pop.you could use a pg squad to throw a inc nade on the atg and move your atgs up while the enemy atg burns or has to move giving you time to pop few shots on the enemy tank. But either way that falls into theorycrafting.

[8thRifleRegiment]

imo the PE just need to get a manned at weapon, all of the PE at at the moment is beaten down by ATG spam

[nugnugx]

imo the PE just need to get a manned at weapon, all of the PE at at the moment is beaten down by ATG spam

so ?  atg is not a counter to atg. 

If you don't want to get killed by atgs buy shrecks.

[BigDick]

tanks and vehicles are almost a hardcounter to pzgrens with shreks wich are more expensive then 100x recrew able ATGs
 
only use of shreks are in support to prevent circling marders or ATGs but not as rely able AT
that still don't help against ATG creeping or some supercheap 100% accurate and penetrating boys AT rifle attacks

there is a reason why even blitz wehr players rely onto paks as their fallback AT instead of just getting storms with shreks

[Tymathee]

imo the PE just need to get a manned at weapon, all of the PE at at the moment is beaten down by ATG spam

Schrecks?