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[smurfORnot]

I have one idea,lets make fausts 90mun,but give them 6 uses,wouldnt that be AWESOME!

[Unkn0wn]

actually i forgot that and yes that makes them much more worse then grenadiers since you still would have a 3 men regular grensquad as AI and additional they can't get regular medkits

Honestly, the k98s on a Schreck squad is not what you use the unit for, now is it? Although a small difference, like 230 MP could be considered.

[nugnugx]

I have one idea,lets make fausts 90mun,but give them 6 uses,wouldnt that be AWESOME!

no more faust spamming for you 

[BigDick]

no but as eir gameplay is all men with 2 arms who can hold a weapon will use it when being attacked

and when you make a push or getting overwhelmed all additional damage output will help you

since this game is about pop and having AT and AI together it makes a difference to run around with 2xschreckgrens+2xregular gerns = 2 schrecks + 14men with grenadier K98 instead of the shit PE karabiner

[smurfORnot]

no more faust spamming for you 

I will just go to brits and spam churchils now... there is no fear of schrecks,since there is no point in faust,rather have pak for cost of 2 fausts...
and brits didnt get any nerf and are good enough,so just gotta see will I go for arty or church spam...

[cloud234]

The firing animation dodge is also a reason why you could be happy with 3 uses. Getting 3 fausts off may be hard, but it's certainly not going to be impossible. (You used to get 3 uses with vet 2, now you get them at base). It's an experimental change, see how it plays out, else we'll have to take a little more drastic course in regards to the panzerfaust.

Well, its only useful for people who don't know how to use it. Players who know how to use it will always cite lower cost.

Volks get killed so fast, they rarely get off a second shot and if they do, I would be pretty satisfied with it. To fire off ur first faust, probably cost 2-3 guys usually.

It's brought in line with the StuH, that's not necessarily a bad thing. But it's price and pool is now probably off for what it does. Easy fix

That will be great. Pop needs fix as well because its highly vulnerable. I wouldn't sink so much pop into an anti-inf killer. I rather have 2 MG42s than a single one of these. Remember it is a T3 unlock as well. I rather take a better T3.

1. There's also upgrades, TBs and Assault grenadiers.

2. There's no reason to justify panzergrenadiers being 4 pop when all other mainline infantry in the game (including the 'terrible' ones) are 5 pop.

3. Did you see the survivability buff? They're now basically grenadiers with mp44s... So no, that's really not excessive.

4. Base PE are not getting a price increase, because their weapon is so terrible so increasing them towards 240 MP (Gren price) wouldn't be justified at all. HOWEVER Tankbusters and Assault grens need to go to 240MP at least, since their weapon is a panzerschreck and mp44s respectively. Or are you going to tell me that Tankbusters (which are now practically a grenadier copy, except for the k98 on the other 3 guys) are in any way significantly worse than the Grenadiers with panzerschrecks?

1. & 3. & 4. Arguably those are to cost munitions aren't they? And not MP right? Do you pay more MP when u put thompsons on rangers? Definitely not. Thats a muni based upgrade. I can understand increasing the MP44 price to match KCH and Storm's MP44 upg but MP? Really?

Not trying to start an argument with you here but shouldn't there be some pricing consistency?

2. The only reason is they play out differently from all the other factions. They are 1pop/man which is the same as volks, tommys and what not. Now you're making them out to be like "wehr grens" without the kar98k rifles. Once u fixed the popcap and prices, PE PzGren will be terrible!

[nugnugx]

I will just go to brits and spam churchils now... there is no fear of schrecks,since there is no point in faust,rather have pak for cost of 2 fausts...
and brits didnt get any nerf and are good enough,so just gotta see will I go for arty or church spam...

sure spam a unit with 12 pop that cannot damage tanks and fail 25pdr , good luck

[smurfORnot]

regular churchil is 10pop,but okay,seems u know things better...

[nugnugx]

regular churchil is 10pop,but okay,seems u know things better...

I just checked and it's 12 pop ,  seems i know better.

[smurfORnot]

I have fucking launcher in front of me,and it shows 10pop,I will print screen it for u if u dont believe...

[nugnugx]

I have fucking launcher in front of me,and it shows 10pop,I will print screen it for u if u dont believe...

ok do it

[cloud234]

I just checked and it's 12 pop ,  seems i know better.

10 pop = normal churchie
12 pop = sherman gun churchie
15 pop (or is it 16?) = croc churchie

[nugnugx]

meh 'normal' for me was the 12 pop one , next time say  IV or VI

[smurfORnot]

why use VI when IV performs just as good,and it's cheaper? I hardly saw VI used,but I did whole bunch of IV's

[RoyalHants]

mk 4 is **** it misses more often is worse agianst inf and tanks and since tank shock was made uselesss theres no point in having one

[TheIcelandicManiac]

No tank hunters?
DAMMIT!¨!!!

[Tymathee]

Well, its only useful for people who don't know how to use it. Players who know how to use it will always cite lower cost.

Volks get killed so fast, they rarely get off a second shot and if they do, I would be pretty satisfied with it. To fire off ur first faust, probably cost 2-3 guys usually.

you do know that most of the time, stickies go unused on rifle squads right? so oh noes, u can only fire off one and its 50 mu, much better than no use and wasting 60 mu.

Also, PE now can survive longer, i dont see what the problem is. maybe TB's need to be a lil cheaper cuz of a weaker gun but now u can actually use 'em and survive some hits just like real grenadiers.

also assault grens will be pretty much like storms without the cloak that have mp44's, and they come at a cheaper price mu wise quite useful.

[cloud234]

you do know that most of the time, stickies go unused on rifle squads right? so oh noes, u can only fire off one and its 50 mu, much better than no use and wasting 60 mu.

Also, PE now can survive longer, i dont see what the problem is. maybe TB's need to be a lil cheaper cuz of a weaker gun but now u can actually use 'em and survive some hits just like real grenadiers.

also assault grens will be pretty much like storms without the cloak that have mp44's, and they come at a cheaper price mu wise quite useful.

play PE. Assault Grens =/= storms because they don't have elite armour or insanely high HP. Obviously u just pulled ur comments out of ur arse because you said "use 'em and survive some hits just like real grenadiers". Kar98k is PzGren kar98k. It deals 7 damage per shot. Use them like grenadiers.... RIGHHHHTT. L2P, kthxbye.

Wehr fausts don't get used most of the time as well! Surprise surprise.

[smurfORnot]

Is LUFT mg34 cloacking fixed?

do flame pgrens also get health buff?

[Smokaz]