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Author Topic: [PE] PzGren Changes  (Read 57818 times)
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BigDick
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« Reply #160 on: February 10, 2011, 02:53:48 am »

pak36 as some kind of move able flak vierling wouldn't be any useful as pe tbh

I think they're fine...all i keep saying is PE, PE, PE lately, no one's going wehr, and they all have g43's and they're pzgrens, not assault grens. They seem to be doing just fine.



i got not a single G43 and i doubt im as noob playing pe as some other guys here  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #161 on: February 10, 2011, 02:58:08 am »

got 2 PE companys and not a single pgren inside  Grin
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« Reply #162 on: February 10, 2011, 03:57:01 am »

pak36 as some kind of move able flak vierling wouldn't be any useful as pe tbh

i got not a single G43 and i doubt im as noob playing pe as some other guys here  Roll Eyes



you spam incin assault, flammens and flame hotch, so you don't count. you also had a pe coy b4 the change, but i've seen many new PE coy's being played with and enjoyed.
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BigDick
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« Reply #163 on: February 10, 2011, 04:01:48 am »

i spam nothing tbh and yes i use some incendiary assault because the weapons of pgrens are useless in consideration of their small squads and useless upgrades

thats why i can only make some use of them by giving them incendiary assault letting them die
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« Reply #164 on: February 14, 2011, 10:13:23 am »

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« Reply #165 on: February 14, 2011, 12:46:36 pm »

The PG squad is getting a DPS buff next patch.
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« Reply #166 on: February 14, 2011, 12:49:27 pm »

The PG squad is getting a DPS buff next patch.

so they will be just like grens? and make g43 even more useless?

probably more whine after that. Followed with more stats changes. in the end pgens will have their old stats again
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« Reply #167 on: February 14, 2011, 01:03:50 pm »

Leo, they are looking at making the G43 better, which = DPS increase.
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« Reply #168 on: February 14, 2011, 01:06:57 pm »

Theres a few possible outcomeson the table, some more creative then others
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« Reply #169 on: February 14, 2011, 01:12:20 pm »

some more creative then others

G43s shooting lasers and summoning Eldars?  DO WANT !!
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BigDick
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« Reply #170 on: February 14, 2011, 01:19:50 pm »

so they will be just like grens? and make g43 even more useless?

probably more whine after that. Followed with more stats changes. in the end pgens will have their old stats again

i completely agree there shouldn't be the default rifles change there should be a change to the g43 upgrade
maybe reduce vanilla pgrens price by 5 pr 10 MP so they are some kind of 4 men re-man squads that are a bit more expensive then rifles and volks (because of more HP but only 4 men) and that get a useful AI weapon available (buffed G43 or 3xG43 per squad instead of current 2) on upgrade and that suck otherwise at damage output like they do currently
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« Reply #171 on: February 15, 2011, 12:34:09 am »

Make it so that if you buy Veteran Sergeant you get 5th guy
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« Reply #172 on: February 15, 2011, 12:58:31 am »

A 5th man change would have tocascade into making IHT's hold 10 troops. so it's not simply a 5th man becomming available.

We've got changes on the boards for discussion and changes in the works to make Pzgrens more appealing
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« Reply #173 on: February 15, 2011, 01:18:01 am »

Instead of increasing DPS - why not ramp up accuaracy to reflect a similar DPS?

That way you get a similar power ratio, but a different implementation.

Or even add higher acc when on the move aswell to reflect the mobility aspect of PE?

Just throwing stuff out there.
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« Reply #174 on: February 15, 2011, 01:34:03 am »

It's still a DPS increase.

We could increase ROF, Damage, Accuracy, Incremental Accuracy, etc; anything that either allows them to hit faster, more often or harder.

Heck, you could even give them another ability that allows them to burst DPS instead of Slow.
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BigDick
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« Reply #175 on: February 15, 2011, 04:15:59 am »

A 5th man change would have tocascade into making IHT's hold 10 troops. so it's not simply a 5th man becomming available.

We've got changes on the boards for discussion and changes in the works to make Pzgrens more appealing

doesnt fit one squad into an infantry HT then?

who uses more then one squad in infantry HTs usually except for transports

anyways im not sure about a fifth man by veteran sergent upgrade since they are called "elite" and not throwaway infantry

currently their rifles are slightly better then volks rifles by one men less means a bit less damage output then a volks squad

i think a fifth men would become handy especially to recrew weapons but i think they could stay like they are but for 205 MP and the G43 will be buffed a bit (at least the coh beta changes
G43 maximum cooldown decreased from 1.8 to 1.65
G43 minimum cooldown decreased from 1.25 to 1.15
 maybe a bit more)

and just for testing we could keep it as it is currently and just switch bars and g43 for one week test

means giving the pgrens the 80mun bar upgrade and the rifles the 60mun g43 upgrade


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« Reply #176 on: February 15, 2011, 04:45:30 am »

it would be interesting to see how that would play,but u know,it will never happen,cuz I already see whole allies play base whining from second it would happen.
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BigDick
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« Reply #177 on: February 15, 2011, 04:50:11 am »

but that would open some people eyes on how powerful bar suppression (hint other topic) and how shit slow is compared and how powerful the bar is and how shit the G43

i believe even tym will stop saying that the g43 is a great upgrade he want to keep for his rifles  Cheesy
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« Reply #178 on: February 15, 2011, 05:18:27 am »

on other hands,they can have more rifles upgraded with g43 than with bars for same price,so they should be happy about that  Grin

and if anyone says they need that supression for bar,well you dont,slow with g43 and setup you mg  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #179 on: February 15, 2011, 07:50:30 am »


i believe even tym will stop saying that the g43 is a great upgrade he want to keep for his rifles  Cheesy

1 pgren squad suppressing 3 ranger squads? you crazy ?!  Shocked  Grin  It would be nerfed faster than you can say OMFGWTFBBQNERFFFFFFFF
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