ErwinNH
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« on: February 17, 2011, 09:06:18 am » |
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+10 manpower
and either
+75hp
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+15% accel
+10% speed
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2011, 09:13:53 am » |
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| ErwinNH
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2011, 09:14:41 am » |
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That was useful.
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2011, 09:21:41 am » |
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not like u
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Demon767
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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2011, 09:24:43 am » |
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No.
2.20am.
l2p m18
m18 is not m10
different styles
both deadly
No buff needed.
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nugnugx
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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2011, 09:36:27 am » |
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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2011, 09:41:09 am » |
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I forgot how many trolls there were on these forums.
Ok so the fail trolls are fail.
What is the l2p m18 skillz that I don't know?
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nugnugx
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« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2011, 09:41:42 am » |
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Leo and i made as much sense and provided as many arguments to m18 as you did.
this thread is pointless, your post is pointless
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| ErwinNH
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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2011, 09:44:05 am » |
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Nevermind. I'll come back to forums when the rabble have moved on.
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nugnugx
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« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2011, 09:45:04 am » |
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buff m18 accel and speed because you didn't manage to escape with it loosing vet ?
its called l2p and get over vet and not buff
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2011, 09:53:54 am » |
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lol in this case erwin is the troll. even though he doesnt realize.
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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2011, 01:28:15 pm » |
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+10 manpower
+75hp
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+15% accel
+10% speed
No offense Erwin, but this post doesn't make sense. It's like saying 'Riflemen +50% dmg please' Why? You're not using the M18 correctly, it's not designed for speed and accel, that is what the M10 is for. The M18 is an ambushing tank that lies in wait and gets away, not designed to slug it out with armor. It needs no HP increase or a cost increase (then why would you take it over an M10?), so as everyone else said, learn to use and play with it correctly. Making short, incoherant topics with no explanation as to WHY you want something is wasting everyone's time. |
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Congratulations, dear sir...I must say, never before have I seen such precise gunnery displayed. - CrazyWR (on Leaderboard Howitzers)  |
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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2011, 01:55:51 pm » |
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Actually, the M18 will be getting a significant increase to its speed in vcoh with the upcoming patch. As someone who has used this unit extensively, I can say that their are significant issues with it. In my mind, for 25 more fuel you get a faster and better AT gun with the M10 over the M18. The ambush bonuses have been reduced and hence are no where near as good as they used to be.
From the beta logs, they are planning to increase its penetration, speed, deceleration, and acceleration. With a price increase, I think this would make a less useful unit useful within the EIR environment.
Here is a quick overview of beta changes to Hellcat:
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Hellcat maximum speed increased from 6.0 to 7.2, acceleration increased from 1.5 to 2.0, and deceleration increased from 3.8 to 4.4
Hellcat's target tables have changed to match the M10 Tank Destroyer's
Hellcat penetration at short range increased from .65 to .75, medium range from 0.55 to 0.69, and long range from 0.4 to 0.63
Hellcat's Ambush bonus penetration modifier reduced from 5.0 to 1.5. Damage modifier reduced from 2.0 to 1.5
Hellcat's level 2 veterancy bonus changed from a 15% range increase to a 50% penetration increase
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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2011, 02:06:49 pm » |
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vet 2 in coh is so broken lmao. +50% penetration.
I remember fighting a vet 2 Pershing with my vet Tiger. I even used blitzkrieg assault bonus but still lost big time coz of the ridiculous vet.
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« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2011, 04:50:51 pm » |
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+10 manpower
+75hp
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+15% accel
+10% speed
No constructive criticism or change will occur if this is all you post. Take the time to make a decent thread and you'll get decent responses. Don't, and you deserve a thread like this. l2p pretty much sums up my thoughts on your use of m18's too. Talk to Heartmann, he knows how to use them. |
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« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2011, 04:56:44 pm » |
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The M18 is still very effective as Ambush AT and anti Light vehicle.
It really doesn't need a buff in EIRR. However, if they put those beta changes in it will need a significant price increase, costing more than an M10 in all likely hood.
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« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2011, 05:20:43 pm » |
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The only buff that tank needs is to have a smaller model!
fucking relic
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2011, 05:37:00 pm » |
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+1
was thinking the same lol.
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Demon767
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« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2011, 05:46:04 pm » |
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Yeah the model is fucking huge!
I believe we dont take on the Beta patchs change because its a Tov unit and they want it to be better then Vcoh unit.
Its fine as it is as a Ambush tank. M18s can and do penetrate panthers from the front regularly
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« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2011, 05:48:40 pm » |
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They do? I would personally never call on an M18 to fight a panther...
The biggest benefit the M18 provides over the M10 is its sight. In all other regards it is a worse tank. I only use the M18 against PE and rarely against WEHR.
Bottom line: is 25 fuel worth the loss of some of the major advantages the M10 has over the M18?
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