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[BigDick]

the jumbo needs either a massive price increase (to panther price) or an armor type change

currently it is a panther with an anti infantry gun instead of an anti tank gun and broken armor because the weapon tables are broken and not balanced for mirror matches (allies weapons vs allied armor and axis weapons vs axis armor)

paks have half of the penetration against jumbos than against pershings
and everyone knows that the pak is not that great in penetrating pershings (half of the shots bounce)

due to the low basic penetration of pak against the jumbo even the first strike ambush shot bounces most times

that is ridicules and retarded because jumbos rape paks they rape shreks they rape p4 and they rape stugs (especially with tankreapers T4)

the only "main" tank/unit that may hurt them are 500fuel more pop panthers that are hardcore AT

why not giving the tiger pershing armor than to mess abit more around with broken weapon tables for mirror balance?

[WildZontar]

You're the first person I know to complain about the Jumbo.


Now, with my obvious Allied Fanboiyism, I'm just going to state my opinion, in which I believe the Jumbo is fine as it is, being a Tier 3 unit afterall.


Feel free to counter my stupid argument.

[BigDick]

so it is fine that the hardcounter to tanks (named AT gun) is not able to at least scare away a main battle tank for infantry company because it will almost never penetrate and has no awesome ap rounds available?
so its ok that these hardcounter to tanks have only 50% of penetration against these mainbattle tanks than against the us heavy tanks?

[panzerman]

going toe to toe with a p4 jumbo wins more easily than upgun :S.

[NightRain]

It has Panther Skirts armor and it is slower than a regular Sherman. Consider it as a better Churchill. Actually if churchills would get their armor changed into panther skirts I think they'd become beasts

[spinn72]

*waits for someone to say l2p*

[LeoPhone]

jumbo actually is broken vs all the weapons that can be captured (so that's all handheld AT and AT guns)
This is because those weapons have dmg tables vs the axis panther, so it is impossible to change it for the jumbo without changing the stats weapons have vs the panther.

I feel jumbo speed could also go down quite a bit more. at the moment it is not noticeable enough. a jumbo driving backwards could still get away from my panther driving straight at it.

[panzerman]

uhh panther can outrun most allied vehicles...

u mean p4...
but yeah maybe a little slower like tiger speed?

[LeoPhone]

it was a panther and I was trying to get behind the jumbo to block it. But it took so long to do that the jumbo was in safety way before I could even get close.

and yeah, the P4 is just completely pathetic.

[Mgallun74]

Doesnt the Jumbo have Churchill speed?  i have seen my old jumbos chased down by panthers before... and i have chased down jumbos with my panther as well.. its not that much of a difference, but the panther from what i have seen is a tad bit faster.


on a side note... the +25% penetration given to the jumbo for TR is better than a normal shermans upgun correct?

[smurfORnot]

and yeah, the P4 is just completely pathetic.

while more expensive than sherman...but people will say,p4 is good,l2p...

[reflecthofgeismar]

i Played with jumbos.
3pieces i have in my company .
they aren't to strong.
assault nades for grens cost 50munition.
they, supported by a tiger are MUCH to strong
jumbo need and upgrade for 80-100munition (long 76mm gun, same like the upgunned sherman)
the jumbo as a front armour of 110mm so he had 10mm more then the tiger in reality
dont whine because jumbo. Not many allies play with it.
whine because the a-nades are defintly too strong^^

[smurfORnot]

dont whine because jumbo. Not many allies play with it.
whine because the a-nades are defintly too strong^^

dont whine because ass nades. Not many axis play with it.

[LeoPhone]

dont whine at all. not many are noob like u.

also tiger company has 2 tigers max. jumbos can have much more + tiger isnt bugged.

[reflecthofgeismar]

i mean only that the jumbo isnt too strong.
assault nades are too strong and the most blitz player use them and the most axis play bltiz.
i have blitzcompany too but german enginerring, recon plane, stormis and tiger.
its very unfair to play with assault nades.
A jumbo is only a good tank, NOT OP.
there should be an upgrade where u are able to give him an 76mm gun.
ah leophone and why u said that im a noob?
u dont know...
its cost 380fuel.
i can have 3 of them and i have three
with german engineering u can have "4" tigers

[AmPM]

Jumbo is fine. My PaKs do perfect killing them.

[DarkSoldierX]

The only problem I can say with jumbo's is that they get free skirts. I believe they should have to pay a munitions cost for that skirted upgrade just like the axis. The shrek has a worse chance penetrating a jumbo ATM then penetrating a pershing.

[BigDick]

Jumbo is fine. My PaKs do perfect killing them.

dude because you play defensive and use pak 40 that got what 80% penetration
if you meant the pak38 then i really want some of that stuff your smoking

the pak38 got 20% penetration against the jumbo

even against a pershing it got 40%

the penetration against the jumbo is like penetrating a freaking jagd without ap rounds from front

[reflecthofgeismar]

as infantry doctrine u get more mp and mun than fuel so you can have 3 jumbos.
german engineering "4" tigers

[brn4meplz]

I never had an issue killing them, they are slow vehicles.

(the Speed in the RGD's isn't correct, there was something messing up the values a while back so we adjusted to compensate. It till hasn't been corrected since then) but the tank is pretty close to churchill speed. A panther can run circles around it.

as PE it's even easier to kill with a Marder and a Treadbreaker shot