nugnugx
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« on: March 13, 2011, 04:50:31 am » |
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It has been discussed many times but i feel it needs to be brought up again.
Smoke should be only available on mortar/arty type units, and not on infantry/commanders/offmap smoke because it's just too powerfull tripling the effectivness of the inf units with a minimal effort on the players side that is using it.
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2011, 04:51:25 am » |
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if that will happen then i want Smoke on my howie just like on the hummle.
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nugnugx
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2011, 04:51:50 am » |
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if that will happen then i want Smoke on my howie just like on the hummle.
i don't see why not. |
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2011, 04:59:04 am » |
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Well it would make the officer a little useless then (exept if they give him the wifflebat for then hes just awesome) but the smoke is the Most uselfull thing the american officer has.
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2011, 05:08:48 am » |
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lol nugnugx got ownd by smoke of command tank/riflenades and riflenades/piats and now it need to be nerfed - thats classic
actually its a smart play and not just blobbing g43 storm tactics squads with some 50mm behind and p4 IST
i see absolutely no problems with smoke i even would like see it used more often
maybe introducing smoke nades?
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nugnugx
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2011, 05:14:21 am » |
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lol nugnugx got ownd by smoke of command tank/riflenades and riflenades/piats and now it need to be nerfed - thats classic
actually its a smart play and not just blobbing g43 storm tactics squads with some 50mm behind and p4 IST
i see absolutely no problems with smoke i even would like see it used more often
maybe introducing smoke nades?
what's so smart about blobbing piats + rifle nades and dropping smoke? it requires less skill than using 3 type of units compared to 1 inf blob which you can cover with 1 smoke. yes very smart. |
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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2011, 05:17:44 am » |
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riflenade smoke isn't that good so you need command tank smoke and piats without lt hit nothing so you need that too
and without at guns its a bit difficult to play against anti infantry tanks
means 5 units at least and an ability
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2011, 05:21:10 am » |
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means 5 units at least and an ability
no you don't, i have replays of brit commando blobs with piats and grenades for inf. you need 1 unit. |
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2011, 05:23:56 am » |
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there is nothing wrong with smoke then but with 6 men commando squads that get piats and grenades and commando"smoke" which some kind of other smoke allows to gtfo when in trouble
there was an other thread (i think) about giving 6 men commandos with no basic munition cost attached cheap piats
and afaik i posted there that its retarded op to have 130mun 6 men piat commandos with commandosmoke
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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2011, 07:23:13 am » |
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lol nugnugx got ownd by smoke of command tank/riflenades and riflenades/piats and now it need to be nerfed - thats classic
Smoke is usually not very combat effective. You can use it to protect a squad from mg fire but you'll still have to flank the mg. Commando smoke if used offensive is often a deathtrap and defensive wise it mostly works to protect retreating units. Smoke on artillery units and mortars is never effective and hence rarely used. |
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« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2011, 07:24:15 am » |
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Dont make it personal, just move on, dont do same misstakes i have made^^
Personally smoke is great, and not used enough, and i would like to see it be implemented on every indirect fire units, thing is PE has to little flame option, whil EVERY other faction regardless of doc (correct me if im wrong) now has flames
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« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2011, 07:47:10 am » |
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Lol, smoke nades? are you kidding me?? This is the stupidest balance thread I've ever seen. Typical nugnug to want to change the most functional and balanced units/abilities in the game.
/flame on typical pony to act like a dumb retard who needs to l2p /flame off Smoke is broken and not functional because it makes inf practicaly immune to other weapons than fire, and by having smoke other players have to get flamers or otherwise they are screwed. The bonuses recieved against normal small arms fire should be lowered. |
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« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2011, 07:51:06 am » |
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Dont make it personal, just move on, dont do same misstakes i have made^^
Personally smoke is great, and not used enough, and i would like to see it be implemented on every indirect fire units, thing is PE has to little flame option, whil EVERY other faction regardless of doc (correct me if im wrong) now has flames
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« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2011, 07:52:52 am » |
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also take a notice that the only functional (read OP) smoke is used by allies , axis don't have the same potential to deploy smoke.
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« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2011, 07:57:10 am » |
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Well i dont know tbh, as i said flamers are one of those thing that seem very doc specific with in pe while both brits and allies have them aswell as wher... so... I do not agree with nug that smoke is op, but i would like to see a flamer added to PE in the future, smoke is circumstantial, if there is a lot of smoke move a way, GIVE ground, not every fight has to be won just the battle.
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« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2011, 07:59:58 am » |
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Well i dont know tbh, as i said flamers are one of those thing that seem very doc specific with in pe while both brits and allies have them aswell as wher... so... I do not agree with nug that smoke is op, but i would like to see a flamer added to PE in the future, smoke is circumstantial, if there is a lot of smoke move a way, GIVE ground, not every fight has to be won just the battle.
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« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2011, 10:14:42 am » |
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The amount of Smoke generated by Arty units has to be massive because they dispersion is random. You can never be sure that you'll obscure your target area
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« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2011, 11:59:34 am » |
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The amount of Smoke generated by Arty units has to be massive because they dispersion is random. You can never be sure that you'll obscure your target area
It would be better like this, you would have to move your squad into smoke, and not stay in one place and do nothing. |
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« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2011, 06:03:31 pm » |
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are smoke gernades any good? Any super tactic ideas or examples?
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« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2011, 06:10:59 pm » |
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are smoke gernades any good? Any super tactic ideas or examples?
Here's a smoke tutorial video i made a year ago. It shows you how to use mortar smoke and by extention smoke in general. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcur5DKw3Pk |
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