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[RikiRude]

Can someone explain how this works exactly? Is it on a cool down? Is it like ambush? Do you get any bonuses coming out of this cloak? Can you move with it? In my head it sounds like you can turn your AB into storm pretty much which would be incredible, although RRs don't seem like they could have the same potential you see with mass shreck storms. Either way I'm very intrigued by the ability.

[TheIcelandicManiac]

I think its the same camo that the TB with TAnk hunters get.

[EliteGren]

You press a cloak button when your infantry is stationary, they will then be cloaked and immobile. It's like the TH Ambush, just anywhere and the only requirement is for you to be stationary

[RikiRude]

ah! cool thanks, I'll have to give it a try when I lvl up my AB company. Does TH ambush give accuracy benefits coming out of it?

Also, I think the US has only ever used ghilli suits for snipers, and I'm pretty sure didn't use them in WWII, maybe can call it something else?

^In before Mgallun brings realism into play 

[Poppi]

ah! cool thanks, I'll have to give it a try when I lvl up my AB company. Does TH ambush give accuracy benefits coming out of it?

Also, I think the US has only ever used ghilli suits for snipers, and I'm pretty sure didn't use them in WWII, maybe can call it something else?

^In before Mgallun brings realism into play 

think camouflage rather than ghillie.  Hanged out with a snipe section. They take pride in their hand made ghillies. But also they are kind of heavy or cumbersome. So no unit on the move will really be wearing one. So what do ninja nazis wear in EIRR?

[PonySlaystation]

It's too expensive for what it does.

[Tymathee]

It's too expensive for what it does.

+1

[BigDick]

It's too expensive for what it does.

so you have to pay munitions for the cloak upgrade? how much is it?
did not played airborne in a while

So what do ninja nazis wear in EIRR?

uniforms colored and shaped by stealth technology the Yankees have stolen after ww2 to rip-off their stealth aircrafts after ww2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP4Ucigr2Rg&feature=related

[8thRifleRegiment]

lets not give airbourne free cloak, the price is absolouetly fine as is, changeing it would be a little stupid, they have super high survivability and they are tough as hell, they dont need cloak too. Each unit in the doctrine has thier own special purpose to serve, in all the 3 "airbourne" doctrines (ie commandos, luftwaffe, airbourne) its units are truly meant for assaults, you cannot assault with fallies or commandos, commandos becuase they go bonuses and fallies becuase four dudes with low health never survives an assault.

[Poppi]

i really think they should just drop cloak all together. Its a cheap and silly move. Maybe next patch include force fields and a force field generator that you can destroy.

I had a guy on a MG hosing down people 5-15 feet in front of them (of course you cant pin or hit vet axis inf with a US MG with LnL T4). THey hit cloak and now cant shoot or see anything.  yahh for realism. They were right infront of me and poof. Gone.

[NightRain]

i really think they should just drop cloak all together. Its a cheap and silly move. Maybe next patch include force fields and a force field generator that you can destroy.

I had a guy on a MG hosing down people 5-15 feet in front of them (of course you cant pin or hit vet axis inf with a US MG with LnL T4). THey hit cloak and now cant shoot or see anything.  yahh for realism. They were right infront of me and poof. Gone.

Axis army is full of magical toys so insta predator cloak field is approvable. Plus your MG costs 20 munitions, what did you expect? MG42?

[spinn72]

AB with cloak just encourages players to use them the wrong way again . I love it when people have Ghilli Suits, it means free kills 

[Tymathee]

i always hated the idea, Airborne has always been the type of doctrine that needs to move, which is why AB armor gives bonuses while on the move, for them to sit in one place is for them to be annihilated.

But i guess it's somewhat realistic as airborne would drop behind lines and ambush but the issue is airborne dont do enough damage to justify this, nor is the stationary cloak good enough to warrant a cost as high as it is, theres no buff behind it. Heck, sprint is cheaper and much more effective, I'd pay the price of ghillie suits for PE sprint, gotta love that suppression resistance.

[brn4meplz]

i always hated the idea

Have no fear you're not alone

[spinn72]

Don't go changing it, Airborne are OP enough that they can have below average t3's 

[Tymathee]

Have no fear you're not alone

Yay. so change it to something cool like an airborne dog or somethin :shrug: Usually that bottom t3 is an unlock, shouldn't the AB sniper be there same as commando sniper and karbiner? Maybe give them those RR jeeps

[RikiRude]

i always hated the idea, Airborne has always been the type of doctrine that needs to move, which is why AB armor gives bonuses while on the move, for them to sit in one place is for them to be annihilated. 

That's why I don't get why they had BAR taken away and have that .30, they have to stop moving to use the .30.

Give the .30 to riflemen in infantry doctrine and give AB grease guns, drop the damage slightly and increase the on the move accuracy (or give doctrinal buffs to moving accuracy.)

[brn4meplz]

Yay. so change it to something cool like an airborne dog or somethin :shrug: Usually that bottom t3 is an unlock, shouldn't the AB sniper be there same as commando sniper and karbiner? Maybe give them those RR jeeps

Theres gonna be a few changes all around so don;t get to worried about it

[spinn72]

That's why I don't get why they had BAR taken away and have that .30, they have to stop moving to use the .30.

Give the .30 to riflemen in infantry doctrine and give AB grease guns, drop the damage slightly and increase the on the move accuracy (or give doctrinal buffs to moving accuracy.)

I think you just mean to say "make them mp40's"

[panzerman]

AB should be a little like LW, reduced timers faster capping, maybe even a T4 that removes the negative effects of fire up... but ab should not become like grens for axis being competent at both AT and AI.
 i don't think they need the lmg...maybe give that to the AB glidermen or bring back AB riflemen without Elite armour... AB should be your assualt force of aggresive manovers and hit and run tactics.
but it shoudn't be about all AB armies. they should be like stormies in not being a mainline infantry but good at what they do.