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						| DarkSoldierX   | 
								| «  on: March 31, 2011, 02:46:51 pm » |  | 
 
 I just realized, for the APCR hotchkiss it doesnt get its 20% increace in dmg vs vehicles in the RGD's
 it just gets the pen and crit increace.
 
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						| TheIcelandicManiac  
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								| « Reply #1 on: March 31, 2011, 03:09:30 pm » |  | 
 
 Hmmm maybe i should add that PE grens that i buy flamenades on dont get them. |  
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						| DarkSoldierX   | 
								| « Reply #2 on: March 31, 2011, 03:52:05 pm » |  | 
 
 if U have stalingrad veterans its bugged it doesnt work.
 Might as well take off stalingrad vets, its not worth loosing nades for.
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						| TheIcelandicManiac  
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								| « Reply #3 on: March 31, 2011, 04:45:13 pm » |  | 
 
 Dude the 20% accbonus is worth it and if you got a map with units in houses you can keep them alive for quite long with the 13.44hp each minute.
 
 i have been using it for some time now and i love it.
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						| DarkSoldierX   | 
								| « Reply #4 on: June 06, 2011, 05:12:39 pm » |  | 
 
 APCR hotchkiss's still dont get a dmg incease vs vehicles. |  
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						| BigDick | 
								| « Reply #5 on: June 07, 2011, 01:46:33 am » |  | 
 
 im generally wondering why the upgun hotchkiss gets a 0.5 damage modifier against m8 armor (m8, T17, tetrach) since the upgun shouldn't make it worse against vehicles |  
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						| Unkn0wn  
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								| « Reply #6 on: June 07, 2011, 02:31:48 am » |  | 
 
 Sounds like a bug |  
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						| Tymathee  
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								| « Reply #7 on: June 07, 2011, 03:06:11 am » |  | 
 
 unkn0wn, i think it's original relic design to make upgunned hotch a tank killer and Lv's do a bad job of penetrating the hotch anway |  
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						| BigDick | 
								| « Reply #8 on: June 07, 2011, 03:17:41 am » |  | 
 
 the upgun for hotchkiss reduce accuracy vs moving infantry from 75% to less than 9% furthermore it reduce its splash from 2 to 1.5 in other words that maybe even tym understand it makes the hotchkiss suck against infantry if its upgun
 i see no justification why it should suck against vehicles too?
 
 
 and if we talk about relic stats than the upgun hotch need to get its 200% penetration against pershings and 80% penetration against churchills back that got nerfed in eir from 200% to 50%
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						| nugnugx  
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								| « Reply #9 on: June 07, 2011, 03:31:33 am » |  | 
 
 While we are at it i think that HVAP  +33% pen on sherman 75mm does not work  and  +25% pen on t17 and m8 also. |  
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						| Unkn0wn  
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								| « Reply #10 on: June 07, 2011, 03:35:47 am » |  | 
 
 Make seperate threads. |  
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						| DarkSoldierX   | 
								| « Reply #11 on: June 07, 2011, 09:02:12 am » |  | 
 
 While we are at it i think that HVAP  +33% pen on sherman 75mm does not work  and  +25% pen on t17 and m8 also.
 Instead of thinking knowing should be better, check the RGDs. |  
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						| Tymathee  
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								| « Reply #12 on: June 07, 2011, 11:27:34 am » |  | 
 
 the upgun for hotchkiss reduce accuracy vs moving infantry from 75% to less than 9% furthermore it reduce its splash from 2 to 1.5 in other words that maybe even tym understand it makes the hotchkiss suck against infantry if its upgun
 i see no justification why it should suck against vehicles too?
 
 
 and if we talk about relic stats than the upgun hotch need to get its 200% penetration against pershings and 80% penetration against churchills back that got nerfed in eir from 200% to 50%
 
 i didn't say it shouldn't change, he just said it's a bug and i disagreed that it was a bug but intended |  
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