[PE] SE Panzer IV IST

[Guest]

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever

Login with username, password and session length

[puddin]

tbh i wouldn't care, i never use it but i dont understand where the correlation between my post and getting rid of button is

tym you just made his fucking point for him you troll. 

Do you realize because you don;t use something or your play style is not paramount?  I think for he person that posts a million times in the balance forums yet never actually gets a " Good Post Tym" Response that is a record. 

Well Tym., any unit you don;t use let us all know so we can start a crusade to get it thrown out of the mod, and any unit you do use, we will ask to have in-vulnerability added to it, so you can;t complain anymore. 

For god's sake man... Would you fucking think before you post... Once, Just fucking once, and maybe people would actually listen instead of just laughing and moving on.

[Sachaztan]

tbh i wouldn't care, i never use it but i dont understand where the correlation between my post and getting rid of button is

alas, was too late.

[Uglysori]

What do you mean by blocked though? When the Inc shot fires and hits, it erupts into a small circle like fire explosion that burns everything in a surrounding area, so even if it hit something else, doesn't it still have the possibility of damagin/killing the ATG crew?


And doesn't anyone find it a bit weird that I would need an ATG and 2 Ranger Zook squads to take down a single IST? Not to mention with EiRRs norm maps being open fields without any cover =P

I want my Jumbos to fire nukes.

Block meaning almost anything in front of the ATG will detonate the inc shot early.  Meaning the circle of fire will never reach the crew of the ATG.  So for instance if u place an ATG two feet behind a fence b/c of the long angle of inc shot, the fence will stop the inc shot from ever reaching ur atg.  Corners of buildings etc... can do the same.  This is w/o factoring in the fact that inc shot as a on use ability negates micro.

[Uglysori]

Block meaning almost anything in front of the ATG will detonate the inc shot early.  Meaning the circle of fire will never reach the crew of the ATG.  So for instance if u place an ATG two feet behind a fence b/c of the low angle of inc shot, the fence will stop the inc shot from ever reaching ur atg.  Corners of buildings etc... can do the same.  This is w/o factoring in the fact that inc shot as a on use ability negates micro.

dbl post

[Tymathee]

tym you just made his fucking point for him you troll. 

Do you realize because you don;t use something or your play style is not paramount?  I think for he person that posts a million times in the balance forums yet never actually gets a " Good Post Tym" Response that is a record. 

Well Tym., any unit you don;t use let us all know so we can start a crusade to get it thrown out of the mod, and any unit you do use, we will ask to have in-vulnerability added to it, so you can;t complain anymore. 

For god's sake man... Would you fucking think before you post... Once, Just fucking once, and maybe people would actually listen instead of just laughing and moving on.

I didn't say i dont have button, i never use it cuz i never get the chance to use it. I have quite a few bren squads but if you try to button an ist, the 2-3 shots it can fire will rape the squad, so there's no point in trying to button it.

OH, and if you try to use the bren carrier, the ist will still destroy it, before you can fully have it buttoned down.

So, no i didn't fall into a trap. I'm just not stupid enough to try to button an ist anymore.

He didn't make his point lol. and i said i wouldn't care if button was taken away is because a lot of times when u button a vehicle, that squad or the bren carrier is dead meat as everything will focus their fire on that buttoning unit to kill it or run it away it's almost not worth it.

the threat is button is worth more sometimes than actually buttoning the unit.

[Katusha]

OH, and if you try to use the bren carrier, the ist will still destroy it, before you can fully have it buttoned down.

I believe that is the same as buttoning it, because you have the IST shooting at your bren carrier, during that time your ATG can easily get shots off on the IST. Except your bren carrier might die/have low health, but in return you have the chance to take out the IST.

[panzerman]

tym stop playing brits your probz doing it wrong. sure it is hard to button a IST but it still works and bren gun carrier button + crom and atg is beast vs IST, and don't tell me it should take that much to kill one. that combination will ill anything that PE throws at u short of a jadg. i mean i hate peeps who say my atg is not working cause IST can kill it with this stupid inc shot blah blah. if ur only using 1 atg at a time for your at you gonna loose from the start on the game.

[nugnugx]

BD said that its easy to get 20 inf kills.  

I guess what he is forgetting that 1 rifle squad has 6 men,  so 3 rifle squads = 18 men.


(go back also into pic threads and see my stuh with 60 inf kills, which i never managed to do with an IST)



Now with Jumbo you also see 20 inf kills often.  Typical axis squad is 4 men.    5 gren squads = 20 men.


The point is, kills mean nothing, because it solely depends on the player who is using it.

[BigDick]

tym stop playing brits your probz doing it wrong. sure it is hard to button a IST but it still works

its not easy to say for me but actually tym is right

buttoning a normal IST is possible even when you sacrifice at least half of the squad doing that...

but to button a 3 times faster firing IST just doesnt work (maybe 1 out of 1000 times if you get very very lucky but not in any way reliable) ....your squad is dead until it would have stopped firing

trying to button a "lockdown" autofiring IST is just stupid

[Tymathee]

^ HA!

[nugnugx]

Tym is loosing it finaly......

[Tymathee]

[Uglysori]

its not easy to say for me but actually tym is right

buttoning a normal IST is possible even when you sacrifice at least half of the squad doing that...

but to button a 3 times faster firing IST just doesnt work (maybe 1 out of 1000 times if you get very very lucky but not in any way reliable) ....your squad is dead until it would have stopped firing

trying to button a "lockdown" autofiring IST is just stupid

Flanking from a different direction that the main cannon is firing and buttoning tends to work drastically better seeing how IST has very slow turret rotation.   

[Tymathee]

ok, so if the ist is coming directly for my atg, then all i have to do is make the bren carrier or bren tommy go to the side of the ist and hope that the user of the ist doesn't recognize which one is the bigger threat? or wait, the fact that the ist will fire at the nearest target, thus eliminating the buttoner cuz by the time i can activate button, the turret will turn.

and oh btw, the turret rotation is fine it's 50, you know what the turret rotation for a normal p4 is? it's 35...

[LeoPhone]

that is hull rotation, turret rotation is found in the weapon's tracking table

[nugnugx]

Tym pls stop posting in this thread,  there is so much fail that one can make and others read.

[panzerman]

LOOOOOOL RGD FAIL!

[smurfORnot]

do you know how slow his turret turns? and when you go for one target, usually IST starts to rotate his turret for another target.

[Sachaztan]

I sense a disturbance in the force.

This thread is heading to a horrible fate...

[Uglysori]

ok, so if the ist is coming directly for my atg, then all i have to do is make the bren carrier or bren tommy go to the side of the ist and hope that the user of the ist doesn't recognize which one is the bigger threat? or wait, the fact that the ist will fire at the nearest target, thus eliminating the buttoner cuz by the time i can activate button, the turret will turn.

And you'll still be hitting the IST in that situation with the ATG which the IST is hardly immune to?