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[RikiRude]

It is argued that it didn't get nerfed it got balanced. This thing is a joke now. the firing cone is so small that just about any axis vehicle can quickly escape it. It sucks against light vehicles which means you feel like you are required to get the Boys AT so you can deal with them or you always have to have a bren mmg on the field. It's so slow that to get it to actually hit its targets you have to button them to get more than one shot on them before getting circled, and even if you do button you might have to move the 17 closer which takes ages. Also I see these bounce shots quite often.

Solutions:

-Give it more range, make it work like a sniper AT, this will make up for its incredibly slow speed and narrow arc, kind of like a marder or gwagon.
-Tone down the muni cost a little bit, make the AP rounds 10 less and the gun itself 10 muni less.
-Give it a wider arc, but less range.
-When filling in the rest of the RE trees, make a T1 or T2 that makes the 17 pounder faster.
-Also you could have a T1/2 that shortens the button cool down as well that could work in conjuction
-Shit give them a fire up ability so if you need to get it moved on the fly you have the option instead of waiting 3 days for it to get anywhere.
-Or indirectly buff it by making the bofors mobile as well, then you can have these two units hang out together making up for each others weaknesses.

Now don't get me wrong, the old 17 pounder was def OP, but I think it got hit far too hard with the nerfs. Also as "great" has having the 4 man crew people think it is, any flame damage thrown at them is much more effective because you are bound to have one guy that just sits there in the flames, and of course when you try to move them it takes forever.

[RoyalHants]

Imo it needs range keep its cone if it actually gets a primary use otherwise its surpassed by the 6q

[NightRain]

Wider arc that's all it needs. The range and arc made it a formiable ATG. Like a Mini Flak 36 on wheels. Feared by Axis alltogether. I wouldn't say the OLD 17Pdr was Overpowered. It was just powerful but slow as hell. It was OP only because every single doctorine got it.

[smurfORnot]

flak on wheels for luft 

[Tymathee]

longer range would be nice i think its what, 60 now?

[Spartan_Marine88]

All im gonna say is
LOL they want to remove the 6 pdr for this piece of junk

[RoyalHants]

All im gonna say is
LOL they want to remove the 6 pdr for this piece of junk

+1 pretty much

[8thRifleRegiment]

*facepalm* the devs put effort into fixing stuff and get no THANK YOU LEOPHONE, THANK YOU GROUNDFIRE or nothing, just MORE QQ about stuff you people thought they didnt do right.

Shame...

[RoyalHants]

*facepalm* the devs put effort into fixing stuff and get no THANK YOU LEOPHONE, THANK YOU GROUNDFIRE or nothing, just MORE QQ about stuff you people thought they didnt do right.

Shame...

Sorry but what did you do after the PE got nerfed QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ QQQQQ

[8thRifleRegiment]

i dont see PE nerfed at the moment? and if you remember my argument was valid and the price of vet sargents was too high and sevral people agreed including the some mods and it was changed. As groundfire said in the other 17pdr thread it will be adressed and right now Its fine and has its role.

[RoyalHants]

i dont see PE nerfed at the moment?

Meaning in the past Re-tar.

[DarkSoldierX]

Ok now 8th dont pull bullshit like that. Noone is pointing at the devs, and your using their name to get at people who know its imbalanced.

Your trying to put yourself up and the others down.

[8thRifleRegiment]

Lmao, ok i do remember the vet sargantes issue about the prices, groundfire has spoken we all stop raging.... now.

It will be addressed after proper play time. I can see the 17pnder getting a fire cone increase from 60 to 70 (it was 100) but other than that, it's pretty much fine and has it's role.

Groundfire ^

[RoyalHants]

i dont see PE nerfed at the moment? and if you remember my argument was valid and the price of vet sargents was too high and sevral people agreed including the some mods and it was changed. As groundfire said in the other 17pdr thread it will be adressed and right now Its fine and has its role.

What role the thing is useless , unless its the role of easiest circle strafeable atg then it fufills that one well

[8thRifleRegiment]

Hey man dont tell that to me, tell that to groundfire since hes the one who said this

It will be addressed after proper play time. I can see the 17pnder getting a fire cone increase from 60 to 70 (it was 100) but other than that, it's pretty much fine and has it's role.

not pointing a finger just saying that the hammer has been dropped this is the opinion of the higher ups and theres no reason for us to continue argeing.
if you dont like his opinion TELL HIM

[RoyalHants]

Hey man dont tell that to me, tell that to groundfire since hes the one who said this

if you dont like his opinion TELL HIM

Trololololol he knows full well i hate the new 17 , hes just mad cos i raped his jag last night 

[M1d]

I just tend to skip most of 8th's posts tbh, there's only so many times you can read buff axis and nerf allies before wanting to /wrists.  

And as a reasonably new player myself, it really didn't take long to notice his extreme bias.

@ 8th Directly: I noticed you told someone in the ATG's thread not so long ago, to stop being so narrow minded.. You would do so well to take your own advice tbh dude.

[Demon767]

8th is the team mascot for everything Axis.

[8thRifleRegiment]

awwww yea