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« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2011, 05:06:18 am » |
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That's because Tigers are generally shite. Its role is same like P4s which also is quite obsolete. If sticky didn't cause perma engine dmg or Tiger's main gun would do more damage than PAnther's gun it'd actually would become a better vehicle. However- this is not the case therefore coys build around tigers are shite.
Yes PIAT equipped engineers becomes strictly a AT unit same like flamethrower upgraded engineers/pios becomes a fully fledged Anti infantry unit. It still comes with a fairly shit platform HP wise.
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« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2011, 05:08:38 am » |
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It still comes with a fairly shit platform HP wise.
2 piat sappers can kill a p4 in 2 salvos , which 2 shreck grens are not able vs sherman and the gren shrecks will be dead when engaging the sherman while piat sappers will not be. As you see platform is not everything, because the tanks that allies face have generaly less splash and infantry dies longer then the axis inf which has to face big splash allied tanks. |
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« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2011, 05:11:45 am » |
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2 piat sappers can kill a p4 in 2 salvos , which 2 shreck grens are not able vs sherman and the gren shrecks will be dead when engaging the sherman while piat sappers will not be.
90x2 = 180 120x2 = 240 PIATs from Ambush 90*2*1.2(? this ir 25%) = Profit. I also don't understand why Axis tanks have so shit splash damage... |
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« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2011, 05:12:33 am » |
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2 piat squads is 90x4
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« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2011, 05:13:32 am » |
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2 piat squads is 90x4
two Gren squads with double schrecks are 120x4 judging that they all hit and penetrate. Schreck costs same ammount as PIAT does. However, PIAT is the strongest handheld AT and I recard it higher than a Recoiless Rifles tbh. |
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« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2011, 05:14:01 am » |
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two Gren squads with double schrecks are 120x4 judging that they all hit and penetrate. Schreck costs same ammount as PIAT does. double shrecks are 1 doctrine |
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« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2011, 05:14:57 am » |
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double shrecks are 1 doctrine
Your point is valid indeed. |
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« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2011, 05:20:43 am » |
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You all fail. If Tankbuster grens were balanced at 4 pop before with there old HP and armour, and they have better AI than a sapper squad, Whats wrong with the exact same armour/hp guys with WORSE AI being 4 pop?
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« Reply #28 on: May 02, 2011, 05:29:29 am » |
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You all fail. If Tankbuster grens were balanced at 4 pop before with there old HP and armour, and they have better AI than a sapper squad, Whats wrong with the exact same armour/hp guys with WORSE AI being 4 pop?
meta has changed, deal with it, we have to balance to what is currently now and not what was some time ago. |
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« Reply #29 on: May 02, 2011, 05:33:27 am » |
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last time nug suggested an at nerf that at rarely gets used again resulting in the use of less various units (cough faust, cough cough)
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« Reply #30 on: May 02, 2011, 05:35:26 am » |
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last time nug suggested an at nerf that at rarely gets used again resulting in the use of less various units (cough faust, cough cough)
nou panzerfaust was the only reason people mass spammed volks, they didn't use them for AI only alphafaustspam If volks were used to anything more than panzefaust spam people would use them today but most of them don't, nerf was needed. |
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« Reply #31 on: May 02, 2011, 05:35:40 am » |
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Well the faust blobs were really fucking OP
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« Reply #32 on: May 02, 2011, 05:36:39 am » |
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also changing piat sapper from 4 to 5 pop is a minor-medium change compared to faust price change which was medium-heavy keeps.
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« Reply #33 on: May 02, 2011, 05:40:12 am » |
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They should allso TBH change TB squads and PEgrens back to 4 pop if they are gonna let the Sappers stay as they are.
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« Reply #34 on: May 02, 2011, 05:43:36 am » |
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also changing piat sapper from 4 to 5 pop is a minor-medium change compared to faust price change which was medium-heavy keeps.
GOT YOU TROLLOLOLOL. |
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« Reply #35 on: May 02, 2011, 05:43:53 am » |
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GOT YOU TROLLOLOLOL.
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« Reply #36 on: May 02, 2011, 05:44:49 am » |
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KLMAO
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« Reply #37 on: May 02, 2011, 05:45:52 am » |
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/watch as keeps run out of trolling arguments
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« Reply #38 on: May 02, 2011, 05:47:18 am » |
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im only in here cos:  i cant really be bothered to argue either |
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« Reply #39 on: May 02, 2011, 05:47:46 am » |
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Nice for you.
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