Power of Pervitin Pills (Broken T4, Replay)

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[Groundfire]

Tl;DR, but ill watch the replay.

What do you guys think about making perv. pills a copy of Inspired assault? Combat bonuses you can buy for extra incomming acc.

[Mysthalin]

If you mean the one extra BAR per upgrade, Bigdick - you must be entirely aware of the fact that you still pay 80 mun, as well as the extra BAR NOT being a pure 50 percent increase in DPS to the entire squad (Ignoring the +1 riflenade/G43 ability in luftwaffe in terms of equal fairness).

In the case of the squad fighting, for instance, a Falls squad - the actual increase in DPS is only that of 10 percent.

Pervitin pills literally allow the grenadier squad to snipe a guy of any enemy infantry squad at long range which each volley, effectivelly ensuring that the only difference between a gren squad and a sniper becomes the cooldown : which, at 2 seconds between shots as opposed to the sniper's 10 seconds - is rather descriptive of how stupidly OP the ability is.

[Unkn0wn]

It should have really never been brought back in its current form, most doctrine rework drafts that were on the table featured (a toned down version of) Pervitin pills as either an unlock similar to assault grenades or a temporary 'off-map' buff like blitzkrieg.

[smurfORnot]

whole terror needs a nerf,today me and Arthur just rolled over kwi and 3rdAssualt ,and I didnt even use offmaps,nor did I use single tank,arthur had only 6 casualty's  in the end,and he used just some khc and gwagons,so I think that terror doesnt need vehicles,offmaps nor any doctrine bonuses,it's strong enough as it is,leave it just blank and it will still be OP to people... trololo

it was game over in 20min...battle 20208

[CrazyWR]

Tl;DR, but ill watch the replay.

What do you guys think about making perv. pills a copy of Inspired assault? Combat bonuses you can buy for extra incomming acc.

definitely not worth a t4 then...

[Tymathee]

anyone abusing Terror is a troll and should have their coy deleted. Just no class or skill using a doctrine thats obviously OP.

btw Skaffa, smurf better. Dont vet if u try to smurf, i knew it was you days ago lol.

[smurfORnot]

Just no class or skill using a doctrine thats obviously OP.

same could be said for so much shit from allied side not long ago,and as I saw,it didnt stop anyone from using it 

[AmPM]

same could be said for so much shit from allied side not long ago,and as I saw,it didnt stop anyone from using it 

No no, see, in Tym's mind it's not OP if it's not Axis. Geez, get it right.

[Tymathee]

same could be said for so much shit from allied side not long ago,and as I saw,it didnt stop anyone from using it 

The fact is, nearly every EIR game u play has at least one terror player in it now, it's being abused.

and i could care less about something people did  "not long ago" because that's over with. I don't do it and its my personal opinion. When something is broken or OP, or exploitable don't use it, I don't i dont give a crap what side it is and i'd tell someone on my own team that they shouldn't use it.

I pulled off my vet 3 hotch when the range was broken because i couldn't keep it from firing at the enemy thats cuz i have morals unlike it seems a lot of people.

To be honest, I generally go for abilities I like not cuz it's powerwful. Like for armor i want the speed increase, in my def cloak, inf tank reapers, commando's red devils, RCA Bat HQ, blitz is dual t3 (commander and HEAT)

[smurfORnot]

terror is same as it was before wipe,and I dont recall anyone complaining it's OP...I just wait til focus fire gets back in,and allies start to cry cause suddenly mg42 is killing stuff,and they cant just charge straight at it.

[AmPM]

The fact is, nearly every EIR game u play has at least one terror player in it now, it's being abused.

and i could care less about something people did  "not long ago" because that's over with. I don't do it and its my personal opinion. When something is broken or OP, or exploitable don't use it, I don't i dont give a crap what side it is and i'd tell someone on my own team that they shouldn't use it.

I pulled off my vet 3 hotch when the range was broken because i couldn't keep it from firing at the enemy thats cuz i have morals unlike it seems a lot of people.

To be honest, I generally go for abilities I like not cuz it's powerwful. Like for armor i want the speed increase, in my def cloak, inf tank reapers, commando's red devils, RCA Bat HQ, blitz is dual t3 (commander and HEAT)

But PervPills is not an exploit, it's a design feature.

Hotch range was a bug.

[BigDick]

If you mean the one extra BAR per upgrade, Bigdick - you must be entirely aware of the fact that you still pay 80 mun, as well as the extra BAR NOT being a pure 50 percent increase in DPS to the entire squad (Ignoring the +1 riflenade/G43 ability in luftwaffe in terms of equal fairness).

you know that i was talking about the upgrade and not the squad? the bar itsself already boosts the dmg output by an insane amount

this T3 make the already powerful bar upgrade 50% (they loose one normal rifle for that that got replaced by a bar ok) better for free
and this includes not only dps but also dealt suppression

and as you pointed out there are doctrine abilities in PE too making upgrades 50% more potent for free (even when the G43 is still shit compared to BAR)

[TheVolskinator]

Think of it this way. PPills are like giving Grens omni-active Fire Up, and a CW LT buffing damage and acc. What's been said is true, the squad can 1-shot in a volley. Add in people that spam Marksmen shot (which has a shit low cooldown compared to recon tommies and doesnt nerf their weapons) and thats pretty much letting the squad instantly kill 2 enemy squad members and making the rest dead within 10 seconds (assuming 1 death per volley). That's insane. For those of you complaining @ BARs...I use them for the ^DPS, not for Supp Fire. I use my MGs for that shit. It's not so different from G43 slow >> Incind nade spam though I won't bash or degrade the use of either. Supp Fire = win against mega blobs (hell even Pblobs if you get lucky).

[PonySlaystation]

What do you guys think about making perv. pills a copy of Inspired assault?

    * Weapon Cooldown x 0.6
    * Weapon Reload x 0.5
    * Weapon Damage x 1.2

This seems alright

[TheVolskinator]

^As a limited 'off-map' or long-cooldown ability, yes. The cost is fine IMO, it's just the effects and repeated/long term use that makes it frankly infuriating to play against. I'd support it 100% as an 'Inspired Assault' knock-off.

[Tymathee]

terror is same as it was before wipe,and I dont recall anyone complaining it's OP...I just wait til focus fire gets back in,and allies start to cry cause suddenly mg42 is killing stuff,and they cant just charge straight at it.

Terror wasn't in long enough before the wipe for people to find and abuse it.

But PervPills is not an exploit, it's a design feature.

Hotch range was a bug.

It's abusing something that's obviously OP, which was in what I said, this is why you piss me off sometimes, you take one thing out of it and focus totally ignoring the whole freakin post, your'e a poor troll.

    * Weapon Cooldown x 0.6
    * Weapon Reload x 0.5
    * Weapon Damage x 1.2

This seems alright

inspired assault was taken out for a reason. If anything P Pills should make them tougher, not stronger as a person on Meth would feel impervious to pain not make them more focused.

Pls no one say (gameplay > realism) just sayin it makes more sense and is less OP.

Wrap up the T3 that's before it into the T4 (stand while being suppressed, lower resistance) and add in the cooldown and reload but no damage.

[TheVolskinator]

^If you're hyped on Meth you could not fucking stand there and load a gun, much less a bolt action rifle and be able to operate the action . Even a mildy-stressed office worker out on the weekend shooting soda cans with his buddies shakes too much to load a gun in a reasonable amount of time. /endrealismpost.

(P.S, the above has nothing to do with PPills, so trolls: find yo' bridge if my engies havn't demod it yet!    )

[chefarzt]

woot if was hyped on meth i could kil u with a toothpick throwing it right in ur left eye

[TheIcelandicManiac]

HEhehehhehe being on meth is like being drunk and having an adrenalin rush.
you wont remember shit what you just did 2 days ago.

[chefarzt]

seee thats the good shit u kill guys with toothpicks and dont even know