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TheVolskinator
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How games 'Play out'
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How do you guys feel most EiR games play out; in the 'meta' style of play--for me, most games seem to (and this encompasses teammates and opponents) start with either a heavy armor start, an inf blob + ATG call in- or light armor. The first ~20 minutes of the game are ATGs and inf skirmishing for territory while Shermans potshot Grenadier blobs and Panthers give chase to the attacking shermans. This continues into the 30-50 minute stages when axis steps up deployment of armor and elite platoons of vetted grenadiers and KCH, whilst the allies bring out pershings to chase off the panthers from their Sherms, and artillery to break the wall of PaKs or to cause unrest in the german inf line so the shermans, once rid of their pursuers, can run around and generally blow shit up. And/or, the axis panthers kite the shermans to death, PaKs creep up, Pershings get knocked and the whole wall moves up. The closing minutes seem to be everyone's "champion" units, elite vet3 heavies, rifle+mortar+mg or volk+mg+pak etc call ins, even odds and ends like bikespam or arty of some sorts being deployed to try and scrape kills from the advancing enemy blob.
Is this how (in personall experience) most of your games play out? Just wanted to hear everyone's take on the feel or flow of EiR games.
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Re: How games 'Play out'
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May 06, 2011, 08:48:22 pm »
depending on start some games can become very heated in the first 5 minutes. like my RCA is all bout using my crom flank speed to get the the axis support weapons before they set up and cleaning it up, forcing them to bring on something heavier. my axis is usually about setting up a area denial with hmg and pak, and shrek grens to skirmish around to find stuff.
it's most of the time about brining on counter for counter until you run out. but don't forget about back capping that sometime comes into play though not as much in current meta.
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spinn72
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Re: How games 'Play out'
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May 06, 2011, 09:20:06 pm »
This is the beauty of EIRR, very few games are alike, every single player that plays this mod has a different style of playing, and focusses on using different units. There are, like everything, trends that separate tiers of players and playing styles, so to some degree, every game is predictable, but for the most part, you'll never know. a company that you win with revoltingly might lose horribly to the same player and same company the next day.
It really depends on who you're playing and what their play style is. Aggressive players will tend to bring on a lot of indirect in their first callin with some heavy hitters (eg. KCH + sniper or neb) and force opposing players to call on their armour first, whereas the more passive players prefer to fight whatever is given to them. Good players will be able to anticipate and force other players to bring on certain units, which they can bring counters on for.
Current meta is changing now with players starting to adopt terror however, there is a trend for more stugs + geschutz from what i'm noticing, and if i'm right, we're going to see a lot of axis with a high amount of units in their companies playing very aggressively.
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AmPM
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Re: How games 'Play out'
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May 06, 2011, 09:26:00 pm »
I still like starting with a KT. Just to draw out all the enemy AT.
Get it over with early, then roll them later with all the medium armor and Panthers.
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TheVolskinator
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Re: How games 'Play out'
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May 07, 2011, 05:46:58 am »
STuGs aren't too much of an issue so long as you can kite them with ATGs or even a couple upgunned shermans. Pershings and FFs eat stugs for breakfast. Goddamnitwagens, however, are still ludicrously powerful...oh well, dats what handheld AT is for :3
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Re: How games 'Play out'
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May 07, 2011, 06:18:19 am »
When you play as long as i and many other older players here, every game is familiar, its how you use your experience and past failures and victories that you can manipulate the players in your game. Making them play how you want to play.
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Re: How games 'Play out'
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May 07, 2011, 07:53:30 am »
And then there's me.
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May 07, 2011, 07:56:31 am »
yes u
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Re: How games 'Play out'
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May 07, 2011, 08:14:33 am »
Quote from: Mysthalin on May 07, 2011, 07:53:30 am
And then there's me.
Still using 10 stugs and 28 volks like a boss even though they got nerfed?
that takes balls my friend.
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Re: How games 'Play out'
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The head troll has balls?
News to me.
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You know that DeadB0lt (IPlayForKeeps) is the head Troll Right?
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Re: How games 'Play out'
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Quote from: TheIcelandicManiac on May 07, 2011, 11:00:01 am
You know that DeadB0lt (IPlayForKeeps) is the head Troll Right?
Yep
How did you not know
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Re: How games 'Play out'
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May 07, 2011, 12:29:09 pm »
I'm not the head troll. I'm the Messiah of Stats. Get your EiRR dieties straight.
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8thRifleRegiment
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Re: How games 'Play out'
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May 09, 2011, 03:53:15 pm »
well, most people these days rely on heavy armor and it is a big part of today`s current eirr metagame. but as most of you have probobly seen my defensive company, i dont like to put soo much reliance into one unit. but normally for me, it works out as, first engagement is either a win or loss then i bring out something to counter what beat me. but of course everyone has thier favorite units that tend to help ALOT (ie, 88s, leigs, Pak40s, officers, defsnvie grens)
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Re: How games 'Play out'
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May 09, 2011, 06:15:40 pm »
^I was out to try the defensive 6-man volks, i know people downplay them, but with vet and a medic bunker, theyre damn durable and could beat rifles easily with just 5 men. Plus pioneers now > engies w. 3 men; pio MP40 > M3, and they have more HP anyways. Add flamer for lolz. And 4 man mortars/ATGs...sexy. Omniscience just = "i cant be assed to micro a bike"
I just hate tanks in general, clunky, ungainly, and tend to die to retarded crap like thrown nades and bikes blocking them in (naaa, 20 ton tank cant roll over bikes. thats a silly idea!!!!)
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Re: How games 'Play out'
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May 10, 2011, 01:37:28 am »
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And 4 man mortars/ATGs...sexy.
Use terror heavy support -> support weapons get elite armor,mp44,+33% health
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Re: How games 'Play out'
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So when you grenade them they die extra fat
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