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Author Topic: 2v2 Vermillion Hawk chooses The Dyke! Loses to Super Heavies!  (Read 2888 times)
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cloud234 Offline
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« on: May 22, 2011, 08:07:33 pm »

So let me get this straight cloud, your screwed-up sense of honor or something tells you that heavy/superheavy tanks are "too easy" to use, and so you refuse to use them, and then try to inflict this on everyone else by nerfing them? It's like saying, "I'm going to bring a knife to a gunfight because I feel that guns are overpowered!" The fact that you believe they are dishonorable or whatever dos not in any way make them a less-viable tactic.

2 vs 2 - The Dyke

Cloud
StickDemon

vs

Vemilion Hawk
FlamingArrow

Hmm, I'm not sure if it was Arrow or Hawk who picked the Dyke. I figured they got super heavies and paks to boot so its advantageous for them to have a BIG sprawling map. Too bad I configured a 2 Pershing company just for Hawk.

Basic Key Points for the game
- KT was the one giving us trouble.
- P4s basically died in the game.
- Paks are moderately useful... gets killed by T4 Urban Survival Kit M8s
- Game was total attrition with nearly zero map control
- At junctures in time, I parked my Pershing straight up against pak. Just liquidated it.
- Dual Repair Pershings were sick.
...Unless the enemy is completely terrible and basically line up to take on the KT one after another Grin
- Yup, Paks lined up one after another to be killed.

Chat Log was interesting though.

00:30:22 [Team] FIamingArrow: bet my p4s got more kills than whatever you were using tbh

Sadly thats true. Medium tanks are versatile in that respect but KTs would work better if well supported instead of used in that manner displayed here.

Strategy works on attrition.
- Popcap changes is only 1popcap total, split in percentages according to mapcontrol for 0-20mins.
- You can afford to come out shorter on popcap control but highly attrite the opponent.
- Do a mad push at 20 mins and hold the territories and they'll run out of troops eventually.

He would have been bashed so hard if he actually picked a different map like Church.
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Vermillion_Hawk Offline
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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2011, 08:52:28 pm »

The Dike was not my choice first of all, and only I had a King Tiger, Arrow decided to be a fool and stock up on nearly-useless Panzer IV's. Second of all, he was awful at moving the PAKs around. Thirdly, I was awful at moving the PAKs around. Fourthly, it wasn't that surprising of an outcome, considering you, an experienced member of EiR, faced down two fairly new players (unless Arrow was a smurf or something), with an ally who may or may not have been experienced as well. Regardless, the outcome was obvious from the start, and I shouldn't have bothered from the moment he brought out a Panzer IV.

Well, one good thing did come out of it: it proved Cloud's a noob: http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=19235.0
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Tymathee Offline
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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2011, 11:16:12 pm »

sticks experienced as well, so it was quite one sided.
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smurfORnot Offline
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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2011, 12:13:32 am »

this replay proves what exactly? they lost even though they had KT,what should been easy win as you stated,since even a noob can do wonders with it...maybe KT needs a buff?!
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panzerman Offline
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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2011, 12:20:26 am »

he did have pershing though... therefore cloud is noob?
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NightRain Offline
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« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2011, 12:45:03 am »

Shh. Having a Pershing is entirely different than having any other heavy tank. First of all Pershing is fast, has good accuracy and good splash and has good armor. Compared to any other heavy tank known to man

- Tiger is le shit
- Panther loses to Pershing more or less
- KT/Jagd etc are Super Heavies.

If anything Pershing is the best Heavy tank there is due to its speed. Saying that running a pershing company is easy mode is honestly the truth.
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smurfORnot Offline
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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2011, 01:17:21 am »

so why take it then against new players,even then when you say it's easy mode and you dont like that?!  Roll Eyes
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panzerman Offline
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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2011, 02:08:29 am »

panther shouldn't be classified as a heavy really.

also does not matter which tier 4 u get as armour they all have a buff for pershing
tiger and panther only have 1 tier 4 in blitz and KT has rolling thunder...woo

tigers don't do that bad.
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smurfORnot Offline
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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2011, 02:14:51 am »

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tiger and panther only have 1 tier 4

noup,only T3 buffs em,while rolling thunder is  sucky,because if you move with KT you aint gonna hit jack shit most of the time.
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panzerman Offline
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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2011, 02:33:47 am »

was talking about LW Tongue
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